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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 23, 2011 19:44:13 GMT -5
Hi all, yep another wreck. I have been wanting to build a wrecked KV for some time now but could never find enough good ref pics on these vehicles. You can fins pics of knocked out KV's but not blown apart pics. One of the things that held me back was the lack of interior ref material...but for what I have planned...there won't be much left of it. Well now I have over a dozen of them and can now finally build one. I will be using a Trumpeter KV I kit for this project since I have one in the stash which I got for $15 at the last big show. This kit has separate hull sides that are glued onto the hull tub, and is perfect for what I have in mind. The following ref pic is just one of the pics I will use as a guide for my KV. This should be a very quick build since most of the parts won't be used....or should I say glued to the actual vehicle ;D ;D **********FOR DISCUSSION ONLY***************** **********FOR DISCUSSION ONLY***************** Pics will follow ...
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Post by TRM on Nov 23, 2011 20:08:16 GMT -5
Bring this on!!!! Count me in for the show!!!
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 23, 2011 20:11:14 GMT -5
Good to have you along T.
I've start cutting up the kit a bit. The hull is a tub as per norm...but there are two outside walls that you have to glue on the outside. Well I started cutting out the tub walls and these will be then glued onto the separate side parts. It will make sense once the pics are up. I am using the ref pics for this so the sides are the way I will be making them.
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Post by TRM on Nov 23, 2011 20:21:47 GMT -5
Pics? Just kidding. Makes sense....kind of!! Like you said at some point things will get clearer after the pics come around! Nice when you jump into something new, isn't it?
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Post by stevereid on Nov 23, 2011 23:02:06 GMT -5
Hey Rob- I am curious about something. Just want to throw this out to everyone and see what kind of ideas people have. In the third shot- the KV II's gun barrel is blown open and you can see the rifling. I am going to be modeling something similar- a flowered gun barrel. Anyone have any ideas on how to do it? Great project Rob- I'll be watching this space. You can do the same with a T-34 by the way... the come apart really well too. Steve
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 23, 2011 23:27:54 GMT -5
Steve the only thing I can think of would be to glue fine wire for the rifling. I won't being do that on mine. I have a KV I so that's what will be blown apart. Should have gotten a KVII....
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 23, 2011 23:37:56 GMT -5
So now to keep the inpatient young man happy...here are some chop chop piccies. The first two pics are of the chopped off sides and you can see how the inner wall rests in the outer kit wall piece. S after cleaning up the parts the two were joined and the return roller bolts marked and I've started adding NBW's to one side. The other side will have one or two return rollers missing so the holes still need to be drilled. The turret roof got the ax as well. Roof removed and the turret shell sanded. The turret floor, not in pic, has had the ejector pin holes filled and will be sanded later. Not to bad for a few hours work. Oh yes, I also cleaned up the running gear and wheels so those are ready to go. ok T, this should keep you happy for a bit bro ;D
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Post by TRM on Nov 23, 2011 23:45:17 GMT -5
NBW!!!! CHOPPING!!! FILLING AND SANDING!!! Yeah....good for a bit...Thx!!
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 23, 2011 23:47:25 GMT -5
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Post by TRM on Nov 23, 2011 23:58:13 GMT -5
Yup!! Oh yeah...Steve!! Was thinking about what you asked! The riffling or the flowering?? Plastic or metal barrel? RIffling....Plastic....I would give acetone, Mr. surfacer or anything that would soften it up pretty good before the barrel was "flowered" then take a stiff bristled tubing brush that fits in the hole. Pull out slowly twisting as you pull, one shot deal. I suppose a rolled up piece of heavy grit sand paper or some glued to a Q-tip would do the trick just as well. A metal one would be tougher...thought you had a lathe?? either way, I would probably try a tap and die set. Something with a high thread count, then a light sanding inside after. This one I would practice on some tubing stock 1st. Sorry for the hi-jack Rob...Steve through it out there
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Post by zlikovac on Nov 24, 2011 8:00:45 GMT -5
Uf, rapid short way from idea to realisation. I realy like your idea Rob, LOL. BTW, are you kiding for picture or realy need this? As you know, my colection is endless, hehehhe. Cheers
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Post by Thom on Nov 24, 2011 8:14:22 GMT -5
Rob looks like an awesome project and off to a great start as well, I'll be watching this one.
Steve for the flowered barrel showing the rifiling two things come to mind, one if you could find a small enough gear or a straight fluted dremel burr you could push it through the barrel before tearing it open that may cut the grooves in for you.
Or after you have torn the barrel open soften up the plastic with some solvent and them run a fine saw blade down the length to get the grooves in or maybe a PE Zimm tool.
Cheers, Thom
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 24, 2011 8:45:12 GMT -5
Thanks fellas, it feels good to open a kit up and start chopping the parts.
Zlik, anything you have on the KV I or II would be great...especially any interior pics. I can never have enough ref pics bro.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 24, 2011 10:29:03 GMT -5
Thanks for those Z, some very useful interior pics. Can't wait to see more....well I can LOL
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Post by zlikovac on Nov 24, 2011 13:22:51 GMT -5
Ohohooho, revenge of rusty funs! Rob, prepare your hard disk for torture, upload of 800 mb is started, hehehhee. Now you know my situation about your picture, LOL. For half time: bronetehnika.narod.ru/kv2/kv2.htmlCheers
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 24, 2011 14:16:29 GMT -5
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Post by `Boots` on Nov 24, 2011 14:30:28 GMT -5
Crickey matey........................you is churning them out!! , just can`t keep pace....................reckon this new site has injected a whole new mojo into folks ;D Thats a awesome project bud and i love the way the barrel looks like the `ol peeled banana
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Post by armorguy on Nov 24, 2011 14:37:49 GMT -5
Rob I just don't understand how you can manage all those fantastic projects Respect my friend ! Sometimes I start walking on the edge of madness building just one kit ! You succeed in building several scratchbuild projects at the same time, incredible ! Good luck with this stunner and have fun, count me in for the ride !
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 24, 2011 14:44:12 GMT -5
Thank you kindly fellas. G... Thanks mate. Doing the wrecks is easy bro, it's all in the convincing destruction, unless you go all out and scratch it right...then destroy it. I did this to my Pz IV a few years ago. Got lots of tricks up my sleeve so don't go too far..
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Post by tonylee on Nov 24, 2011 17:20:45 GMT -5
HOLY SMOKES What hit it, a nuke? Tony
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Post by TRM on Nov 24, 2011 17:57:04 GMT -5
Keep plugging away Rob!!! Love watching you build em!!!
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Post by stevereid on Nov 24, 2011 19:22:20 GMT -5
Sry for hijack Rob - bet Steve won't see this!!!! Not only did I see it- that is how I am going to do it! Thanks Dicky! Rob- If you want to blast a KV II I have one and it is not too late to swap turrets. Steve
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 24, 2011 19:24:05 GMT -5
Been thinking about this, over turkey dinner, and came up with an easy way. Actually Steve it's what you like working....stretched sprue. Glue the lengths onto the two kit barrel halves and apply liquid cement...next day you can cut it up....or rather peel the banana.
Thanks for the comments guys.
Tony it does happen that tanks will come apart like this. In Iraq I saw what was left of a M109 ...could only make it out by the wheels and what was left of the lower hull.
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Post by stevereid on Nov 24, 2011 23:11:49 GMT -5
HOLY SMOKES What hit it, a nuke? Tony You know what Tony - I think that is a good question. When you see a pic like this it is always taken by the Germans- the tanks were probably blasted to bits by engineers and then photographed for propaganda purposes. Kind of reminds you of the pictures of knocked out Tiger I's and II's taken by the Americans and British in Europe. Steve
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Post by zlikovac on Nov 25, 2011 5:22:02 GMT -5
Rob, look on PM.
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Post by Wes on Nov 25, 2011 7:54:48 GMT -5
Im really enjoying this so far. Looking forward to more.
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