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Post by adt70hk on Nov 4, 2023 16:58:05 GMT -5
Sorry, not had the chance to before.
They have turned out nicely.
1/72 is my usual limit, but have done a 1/100 Huey age they are tiny!
Keep up the good work.
Andrew
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Post by Whiterook on Nov 15, 2023 10:30:04 GMT -5
Sorry for the hold up everyone… I’d gone to a wargaming expo the end of last week and came home Saturday, testing positive for COVID I’m looking forward to finishing these up and getting them on the game battlefield! My Tamiya Flat Base came in and I’ll try a smaller, new batch of dullcoat, trying in a test piece first, I’d course! …I still think a non-toxic version is still worth a go, especially where it’s worked in the past on models. stay tuned!
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Post by deafpanzer on Nov 17, 2023 9:25:21 GMT -5
Oh no, hope you are feeling better by now! Looking forward to your updates...
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Post by 406 Silverado on Nov 17, 2023 13:36:01 GMT -5
Sorry for the hold up everyone… I’d gone to a wargaming expo the end of last week and came home Saturday, testing positive for COVID I’m looking forward to finishing these up and getting them on the game battlefield! My Tamiya Flat Base came in and I’ll try a smaller, new batch of dullcoat, trying in a test piece first, I’d course! …I still think a non-toxic version is still worth a go, especially where it’s worked in the past on models. stay tuned! Really sorry to hear that Emery. Hopefully you recover quickly pal. Looking forward to seeing more on this one when you feel up to it.
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Post by Whiterook on Nov 20, 2023 9:19:43 GMT -5
Oh no, hope you are feeling better by now! Looking forward to your updates... Thanks, mate… much appreciated, and thank you for following along. You were always a huge inspiration to me when I first found MSC a billion years ago, and you still are. Sorry for the hold up everyone… I’d gone to a wargaming expo the end of last week and came home Saturday, testing positive for COVID I’m looking forward to finishing these up and getting them on the game battlefield! My Tamiya Flat Base came in and I’ll try a smaller, new batch of dullcoat, trying in a test piece first, I’d course! …I still think a non-toxic version is still worth a go, especially where it’s worked in the past on models. stay tuned! Really sorry to hear that Emery. Hopefully you recover quickly pal. Looking forward to seeing more on this one when you feel up to it. Thanks, my friend! Day 10 so I’m finally out of quarantine tomorrow!!! Feeling quite a bit better, thanks, and breaking out of my little prison cell (nice as it is) will be awesome!!! I particularly want to get in the car and go, well, anywhere! …but close on those heels is the workshop!!!
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Post by deafpanzer on Nov 20, 2023 9:26:20 GMT -5
I am so glad the guys pulled me back here when I was dealing with no mojo for four years! I find it very helpful to hang out here because it really helps to keep my mojo going especially the group builds!!! Thank you for the very nice words and I am glad we are still hanging out here at MSC!
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Post by Whiterook on Dec 30, 2023 14:36:05 GMT -5
Oh, forgot top mention… I did try a brushed on coat of my home-brewed dullcoat concoction, but ran into trouble. I applied it just to to the underbelly of one Huey, and inadvertently hit the side of one boom and crew bay door… but it had several fogged areas After some butt kicking on myself for not properly testing on a test piece, I days later, went back in with some pledge and it corrected the finish flaw, though now quite glossy! Thinking on what may have gone wrong, and talking about it on the forums, I figure… - The main culprit may have been too thick an application with the flat brush?
- The Tamiya Flat Base I used is a bottle that’s probably well over a decade and a half old and had gone bad? It was gray and clumpy on the sides of the inner bottle; when preparing the mixture, it came out kinda like thickish yogurt into my clean mini-jams bottle and probably had bad play with the Pledge (Future).
The correction went well enough, thank goodness, so I ordered a new Tamiya Flat Base and will see what the contents look like… and try a new mix. I did try the old mix with a thinner application by brush on a test area and it was fine, so idk. I’d rather be safe than sorry! New flat base due in this coming Thursday. Stay tuned! I can’t say I’ve ever quoted myself …but I figured it was a good way to show the fogging issue I’d had previously, and report on the next steps. I’d luckily. Salvaged the miniature by reapplying a coat of Future Floor Acrylic, which got rid of the white splotching; and then ordered a new Tamiya Flat Base, as I figured it was the main culprit… PHASE 2 I’d received my new bottle and sure enough, it was lighter and more watery than the old snot stuff in the previous bottle bought back when Clitin was president (or thereabouts). So I tried once again, with a trial in the bottom of one Huey, in a very small section. NOTE TO SMART PEOPLE: Do this on a test scrap, not your build! (A.k.a, do as I say, not as I do!). Well, it fogged up again! …not as bad this time, but dead white where it fogged. Looking at the bottle of Furure, I’m figuring that it is the main instigator… it has a slight yellowish tinge, so being old as the hills, I’m sure the manufacturers guidelines that it should have been tossed many years ago is correct. As an aside, I’m hesitant to trash it, and may try a couple test runs as just using it alone to see if it still works as advertised, but we’ll see. PHASE 3 Well, I’d noted a few weeks ago that somewhere along the line, I red red a bottle of Vallejo Matt Varnish, so I gave that a go. Initial try showed no fogging, but I’ll give i some cure time a recheck.
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Post by Whiterook on Dec 30, 2023 16:53:51 GMT -5
Well OK then! The Vallejo Matte Varnish worked a peach! It took the shine off the regular acrylics, as well as the spots with straight Future gloss on the noses. I think this stuff is Brilliant!!! Applied with a quarter inch flat brush, it glides on and leaves no brush strokes. I am half thinking of applying some gloss on the windows… I may try that with Tamiya gloss. What surprised me the most though, was how it brightened up the rotor blades, smoothing out the overall finish. Of course, something had to go wrong, as has happened throughout this build… I learned a valuable lesson however, which will serve me well in builds down the road: Magnet polarity only goes one direction!!! You see, I glued one magnet disc into the top engine cowling atop each Huey, and one on each end of the main rotor booms that mount into the engine cowling’ however, I didn’t think to check if I glued them in the right polarity direction. When I went to mount the main rotors, they repelled away!!! Ugh. I couldn’t get the magnet out of the cowling, or cut it off the rotor boom mast. Doing a quick read, I saw you can soften CA with Acetone, so I brushed some on the mast and let sit a tad… then, I was able to use a craft knife with #11 blade to carefully cut the magnet off. Much to my amazement, I was able to do so and keep all my fingers intact! The only hiccup was snapping a blade off one of the rotors… UGH. I set that blade back on with some CA. I then grabbed new magnets and made sure I popped thm into the engine cowling in the right direction; opting to glue the rotor booms onto the double magnets instead…trickier, but I didn;t want to chance gluing the magnets onto the mast in wrong direction again. I had to prop (no pun intended) the rotar on a TETc bottle. I’ll check on the remounted blade to boom mast tomorrow after the CA hopefully cures tight …given success, I may have to flip it over and apply CA on that side and wait another day. I’ll consider the window glossing tomorrow.
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Post by Whiterook on Dec 31, 2023 18:32:45 GMT -5
The CA glue seemed to work well on the damaged rotor blade junction and seemed fairly secure… turning it right side up, I noted a channel between the blade attachment and the mast… I figured I’d try to fill it with a patch of sprue; cutting a small sliver from a piece of soft sprue tree, shaved to a small diameter, I dropped it in the channel and applied TETcement, and then another sliver and repeat… The blade was then mounted in the engine cowling and propped up as the previous assembly… We’ll see how the repairs worked out tomorrow.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Dec 31, 2023 18:51:46 GMT -5
Really glad to see you back in the fold Emery ( Whiterook). I was getting ready to put out an APB on you bro. Good to see you back at the bench with some good progress too.
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Post by Whiterook on Jan 1, 2024 15:45:11 GMT -5
Really glad to see you back in the fold Emery ( Whiterook ). I was getting ready to put out an APB on you bro. Good to see you back at the bench with some good progress too. Thanks, Joe… been a rough December, but doing better now. Glad to be at the bench again!!!
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Post by Whiterook on Jan 1, 2024 15:45:36 GMT -5
So the main rotor blades on the second Huey appear solid! I put a little CA glue on the top blade junction for a little extra hold. I was going to use “Tamiya Clear” (which I assume is a gloss), but I decided to throw caution to the wind and try my old “Pledge with Future Shine” acrylic, which is old as the hills, for ALL the windows on the Huey without all the rotor blade issues. Applying it with a thin artist brush, it looks amazing at the moment… we’ll see as it levels overnight and see if it fogs or cracks; I anticipate all will be OK with it, and I love the glasslike look! The Huey on the right has the Future glass… The Huey on the left in the following two pics has the glass look… We’ll see how they look later!
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Post by Leon on Jan 1, 2024 17:42:34 GMT -5
This is looking good!
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Post by Whiterook on Jan 2, 2024 18:16:48 GMT -5
Thanks, Leon!!! They are looking good for never having built these new sprue/model versions of Battlefront’s miniatures. I’ve learned a LOT! The Future didn’t cloud. There was a tad of cracking on a couple side windows but I just applied a little more. I’ll need to go back in later with some Matt Varnish to clean up where the Future bled onto the fuselage’s window casings. Of course, what would this build be without issues, hahaha! Remember when I glued thos rare earth magnets on with reverse polarity and had to cut them off the main rotor boom? I apparently tossed those two… they had glue and paint on them and I probably figured it was too much trouble to scape them clean. Well they weren’t spares, after all!!! …they are used on the flight stands. UGH. So I am two sort from being able to affix both helicopters on a flight stand each. The fix for now is top grab one of my other kits that has other helicopters and *borrow* those. I wrote to Battlefront to see if I can get replacements, but I’m not holding my breath. Now, I’m just trying to decide which height flight stand pole to use… there’s a short one, typically used fr helicopters, and tall one typically used on aircraft; I’m just deciding what would be easier to use in-game. Anyway, getting closer! My only hesitant regret is, I should maybe have tried dirtying them up with a wash… I bought some Flory washes which would work well, but at this stage, I’m running on fumes!
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Post by Whiterook on Jan 3, 2024 17:13:19 GMT -5
Found magnets on Amazon… on the way!!!
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Post by themongoose on Jan 31, 2024 17:37:13 GMT -5
I know it’s been awhile but i just found your thread 🤙🏼 great stuff here for sure. I build this kinda thing for my son’s D&D. Love the war gaming angle. You’re making them really stand out!
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Post by lyle on Jan 31, 2024 21:21:09 GMT -5
Those are itty bitty.. wow. That some fine building.
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Post by Whiterook on Feb 1, 2024 10:29:04 GMT -5
Thanks guys… yeah, they are tiny, but manageable; the worst parts were the rotors, which are a real stinker not to break…I’m not sure how they will hold up over time in actual gaming.
Quick update…the stands are underway, using clear plastic glue for the rods to the base; the rare earth magnets are up next. Then a final check on the overall finish and if they pass my critical review, on to the gaming table they will go!!!
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Post by stikpusher on Feb 1, 2024 13:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by stuart on Feb 26, 2024 15:26:15 GMT -5
Interesting, one of my local model/gaming shops sells these Team Yankee miniatures - I might have to get some.
These have come out brilliantly - very nice work!
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Post by handiabled on Apr 29, 2024 8:54:18 GMT -5
Whiterook, Any new pics to share of where you are at with this one?
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Post by sharp on Apr 29, 2024 11:11:33 GMT -5
Wow those are teeny!! Awesome work!!
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