Dragon Tunisian Tiger 3/2 Disaster

[modsrule1976]

Looking real good!

[Tojo72]

I painted with Modelmaster Enamels which I don't usually do, but I liked the colors.I overcoated with a good coat of Vallejo Acrylic Flat Coat.I allowed it to cure for 36hrs,but my enamel wash ate right thru it and destroyed my paintjob.I went easy,I dabbed and waited,but it crinkled right up.So I am depressed and disgusted and don't feel like looking at another model.

[afvfan]

Well, that sucks!

[Leon]

Oh crap Anthony,that is bad!

Hope one of the guys here can suggest a way to save this Cat!

[adt70hk]

Sorry to hear about the setback.

[wbill76]

Sorry to hear that Anthony! I've never used the Vallejo Flat as a protective coat for enamels so can't comment there. If you take a second crack at it, I recommend using Future as a protective coat over an enamel base coat. I've never had it fail me yet!

[dierk]

Really sorry to hear that - my condolences.
So I suppose you'll now be stripping it back to plastic with oven cleaner and start again? After a suitable period of mourning, of course.

[wouter]

Ouch that sucks big time Anthony...I hope you find a way to get it back on track.

Speaking of oven cleaner...I have no good experiences with that. Years ago I was building a Tunisian Tiger (go figure, they must be cursed ) too and didn't like the crude paintwork so stripped it with oven cleaner. But the ca glue was affected as well and all the etch (which was a lot) fell of and the thing was destroyed.

Well, to end on a slight positive note (but first of all hoping you can strip her and start over), in case paintstripping doesn't work out you can always convert her to a wrecked Tiger

Cheers

[Tojo72]

Thanks guys,it will go on the shelf for now,once I get my head together,I will have to start something else.

[jsteinman]

A quick dip n strip, or maybe time for a wreck?

[tobias5555]

That are the dark moments in our Hobby.

[afvfan]

I was catching up on the thread when it hit me, why did you use a flat coat before trying the wash? By the chemical nature of the flat paint it is more porous than a gloss. The molecules of the flat are looser, which refracts light, eliminating shine. Gloss paint is tighter to give you a more reflective finish. This is really evident when doing pinwashes. On a gloss base the wash stays in the recesses, whereas you'll get all sorts of bleeding on a flat base.

HTH

[Tojo72]

Mar 3, 2016 13:46:03 GMT -5 afvfan said:

I was catching up on the thread when it hit me, why did you use a flat coat before trying the wash? By the chemical nature of the flat paint it is more porous than a gloss. The molecules of the flat are looser, which refracts light, eliminating shine. Gloss paint is tighter to give you a more reflective finish. This is really evident when doing pinwashes. On a gloss base the wash stays in the recesses, whereas you'll get all sorts of bleeding on a flat base.

HTH

I'm in the habit of doing an overall wash to impart a grimy or dusty look as well as filling the recesses.Ive never had a problem with enamel wash applied directly to Vallejo or Tamiya paints so I thought the Vallejo clear coat would protect the enamel paints also,but no dice.

[Deleted]

While you are thinking about it Anthony and you have access to a Wal Mart, pick up a gallon of this and let her soak. She'll be good as new real soon.

[afvfan]

Mar 3, 2016 16:10:57 GMT -5 Tojo72 said:

I'm in the habit of doing an overall wash to impart a grimy or dusty look as well as filling the recesses.Ive never had a problem with enamel wash applied directly to Vallejo or Tamiya paints so I thought the Vallejo clear coat would protect the enamel paints also,but no dice.

Vallejo's clear gloss probably would have worked okay, like I mentioned. I think the problem is the flat that you used.

[TRM]

Well that sucks! Sorry to hear about the downfall on this one Anthony! Not a bad idea to set it aside and let things calm down....then strip the beotch and get back on that horse! Easy-Off oven cleaner in a big Ziploc will certainly clean her to the bone! Best of luck on the filler build until then!!

[wing_nut]

Ouchtown population you dude. Get right back in there though with something else. Don't let that turn into a "funk"..

[M1Carbine]

Anthony - Kitty Cat looking nice so far buddy.

Bob

[sturmbird]

Feb 29, 2016 16:46:23 GMT -5 Tojo72 said:

Gary,at work we have little tags with wire that we attach to heaters after inspections,the wire was just right.

glad it worked for you.

Not realizing you were doing Tiger #131. There's a book out on that particular tank. Think it's called "The Tiger Owner's Manual" from Haynes. Lots and lots of great photos to work from, and most all are new and in very sharp color. Virtually all are of #131. Kinda hoping to see Rye Field do this tank, as I have two of their #5001 kits to build, and like them.

gary

[Tojo72]

Mar 4, 2016 2:55:19 GMT -5 sturmbird said:

Feb 29, 2016 16:46:23 GMT -5 Tojo72 said:

Gary,at work we have little tags with wire that we attach to heaters after inspections,the wire was just right.

glad it worked for you.

Not realizing you were doing Tiger #131. There's a book out on that particular tank. Think it's called "The Tiger Owner's Manual" from Haynes. Lots and lots of great photos to work from, and most all are new and in very sharp color. Virtually all are of #131. Kinda hoping to see Rye Field do this tank, as I have two of their #5001 kits to build, and like them.

gary

This one wasn't 131 that's a diffrent kit,Dragon 6820,this was kit 6608.

[armorguy]

I hate to read this and I think we all know how this sucks. A couple of years ago I started airbrushing a model after almost one year of patiently doing research/building/scratching...and ruined it completely, but I managed to remove the paint (mixture of Tamiya acrylics/laquer thinner/gloss) with Laquer thinner. My second try was another disaster (too much air made my paint dry on its way to the model and came down like dust=matt like hell !) and then I lost it completly by giving it a good smack, stoopid because I was the one who did it the wrong way. Believe it or not, one week after this happened I removed a tip of a toothpick out of my arm !). What I want to tell you is that we all experience these crappy situations and the positive note is that we learn from it at the same time, this won't happen again.