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Post by dierk on Feb 5, 2016 12:03:10 GMT -5
Frank McDuck would say, yes, this makes sense! Scrooge, ah, Frank that means... I prefer to think of myself as having short arms and deep pockets My Gawd Shay - I thought things were bad here... You put the saw in it...I like it ! Time to improve this, cool. Saw??? You must be mistaking me for a plastic surgeon Guy - I'm more of a plastic butcher Cut into the plastic with snips and then break pieces off with pliers, followed by filing the bejesus out of it is more my style Actually, I did try the saw, but the plastic is so hard and thick the saw got stuck after a few millimetres. Front plate replaced and some guns fitted (barrels from DT MGs), with a rough sketch of the applique armour and vision slot covers. The bottom of the frontal area of the kit is a bit too wide compared to an actual AT-ST, but if I tried to change that too there basically wouldn't be anything left of the kit, and as mentioned previously, trying to saw the kit plastic is an excercise in futility: Bit of filler and some more sanding and it should look OK - I hope. This being my first real foray into the world of scratching (apart from my nether regions - I'm a master in that field) don't be too harsh in your judgement. And yes, the guns are articulated: I used some bits from the spares-box, wire and sheet to make the gun mounting: Thanks for popping by and all comments, hints and tips gratefully received. Let the butchery continue!
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Post by John Everett on Feb 5, 2016 12:14:21 GMT -5
Wow! Better already.
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Post by Leon on Feb 5, 2016 12:19:32 GMT -5
Nice work on the surgery Dierk!
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Post by dierk on Feb 5, 2016 12:35:09 GMT -5
High praise from a scratch-meister - you're making me blush John Thanks Leon
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Post by kaytermarram on Feb 5, 2016 16:53:49 GMT -5
I admire this really! Love the scratch work a lot and when you put so much effort in the Chicken Walker, you should really go to the max, speaking of detailing. MAYBE you will be angry in a few months when you think, it would have been better to detail the hell out of this thing. I see tons of potential here, and you can make it! Let this kit be the basic for a real cool AT-ST!
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Post by adt70hk on Feb 5, 2016 17:45:10 GMT -5
Dierk
Looking very nice mate! Keep it up.
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Post by armorguy on Feb 6, 2016 6:17:57 GMT -5
Nice progressing Dierk, gogogo !
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Post by dierk on Feb 6, 2016 7:05:35 GMT -5
I admire this really! Love the scratch work a lot and when you put so much effort in the Chicken Walker, you should really go to the max, speaking of detailing. MAYBE you will be angry in a few months when you think, it would have been better to detail the hell out of this thing. I see tons of potential here, and you can make it! Let this kit be the basic for a real cool AT-ST! Frank Thanks Frank, your words of encouragement mean a lot to me. I'm certainly going to give it my best shot, but, like I mentioned earlier, to make it really accurate I'd basically have to throw away the kit and scratch the lot - the front plate is too wide, the weapon pods on the side (the round bits) are too large - if I were to change them, the bolts would then be in the wrong place and on and on...There are also inaccuracies all over the legs . But, if it turns out the way I see it in my mind's eye, it should look pretty similar to an AT-ST so long as it doesn't stand side by side with something like the Bandai kit. Keep your fingers crossed, or squeeze your thumbs for me - whichever you prefer Cheers Andrew! Will do Guy! Just waiting for the filler to go off before doing more work on the hull. Had a rummage in my dad's garage and found these: Should come in useful for making all the different leg joints. Stay tuned for more butchery.
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Post by kaytermarram on Feb 6, 2016 8:47:50 GMT -5
Remember: It is mostly the LOOK that counts, not if the rivets are all in line compared to the original!
Frank
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Post by Leon on Feb 6, 2016 8:48:24 GMT -5
Nice set of punches there Dierk! Should be useful on a lot of projects.
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Post by wbill76 on Feb 6, 2016 13:05:52 GMT -5
Definitely making some major improvement here Dierk! Should give you a chance to explore and be creative vs what you had to start with.
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Post by dierk on Feb 6, 2016 13:11:42 GMT -5
Remember: It is mostly the LOOK that counts, not if the rivets are all in line compared to the original! Frank Can I at least count the rivets? Although the DT MGs looked OK, I wasn't quite happy with them - and the main guns on the 'real' thing were different. So, here is armament MK II, with applique armour fitted too - I'll be adding a bit more armour once I've sorted out the covers for the 'windows', followed by more filling and filing - I'd like to say I planned it that way...didn't though: I'm using this site as my reference. As you can see, the hull should be quite a bit narrower - but you'll have to live with it, because I am You know the drill: ACW and thanks for popping by
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Post by dierk on Feb 7, 2016 9:47:58 GMT -5
the glacis is done, and the chicken's got a full set of teeth: The shield may be a bit too long, but it's glued in place now and I'm not ripping it back off: Hull is pretty much closed up: Filled areas still need more cleaning up. It may not win any prizes, but for a fist attempt at some comprehensive scratching I'm fairly pleased with how this is turning out. This was the easy bit - getting the legs articulated will be much more difficult. Thanks for taking the time to have a look and ACW.
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Post by kiwibelg on Feb 7, 2016 10:44:13 GMT -5
This kit has turned from something terrible to actually HOW it should have been produced. Sloppy stuff on their part, but you have worked your magic here my friend!! This is going to look awesome painted!
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Post by dierk on Feb 7, 2016 12:20:07 GMT -5
Thanks Shay! It's getting there, I think. What really surprises me is that it is licensed by Lucas Film - maybe they didn't care about accuracy as much as they did about getting money for the license?
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Post by kaytermarram on Feb 7, 2016 13:23:21 GMT -5
In a German fourm, there was this AT-ST build from an AMT AT-ST. The builder scratched the model more or less complete new with the kit as a basis. Sadly, he will not finish it because of the Bandai kit... It is in German, but watch it, only because of the pics. It is really worth it! www.phoxim.de/forum/index.php?topic=2086.0Frank
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Post by dierk on Feb 7, 2016 13:49:19 GMT -5
Cheers mate - German's not a problem for me as I am of the Krauty persuasion myself It's actually the other AMT kit, the one mentioned by Dupes - but there'll be some useful stuff that I can copy
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Post by Leon on Feb 7, 2016 14:41:43 GMT -5
That is some fantastic work Dierk! Replacement guns look great.
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Post by armorguy on Feb 7, 2016 15:14:28 GMT -5
It looks much better than the kit's version Dierk, well done so far feller ! The guns look killer !
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Post by dierk on Feb 8, 2016 12:44:05 GMT -5
Definitely making some major improvement here Dierk! Should give you a chance to explore and be creative vs what you had to start with. Cheers Bill! Somehow managed to miss your reply. I'm treating this - mostly - as a fun project and something to practice my plastic butchery skills on. In a German fourm, there was this AT-ST build from an AMT AT-ST. The builder scratched the model more or less complete new with the kit as a basis. Sadly, he will not finish it because of the Bandai kit... It is in German, but watch it, only because of the pics. It is really worth it! www.phoxim.de/forum/index.php?topic=2086.0Frank Had a good read of the post you linked Frank, and have come to the conclusion that the guy is a lot more anal and skillful than me. Shame he's not going to finish it as he won't be getting as much kudos for the Bandai kit, I think. That is some fantastic work Dierk! Replacement guns look great. Thanks Leon, much appreciated. Decided to to do this with what I've got, and not spend any more money on buying goodies for it. It looks much better than the kit's version Dierk, well done so far feller ! The guns look killer ! Bedankt Guy. Glad you're liking it! Apart from starting to cut into the leg-joints (anyone for drum sticks?) I left it alone today - had things to do and people to annoy. The plastic really is ultra hard, and sawing it not easy. More when I've got something to show. But I found this: the slightly less crap AT-ST: spaceart.de/produkte/sw056.phpJust in case you missed it: Preis: 109,- €
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Post by afvfan on Feb 8, 2016 13:19:36 GMT -5
Making good progress on the upgrades, Dierk.
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Post by kaytermarram on Feb 8, 2016 13:57:23 GMT -5
The guy, Bernd Slominski, is well known within the German Forum scene. His forum is www.classicmonsters.de. He does his living with kitbuilding and painting garagkits for overseas custormers. And yep, sadly he wonßt finish the kit. Space Art is a good source for rare kits, but the fantasy prizes they call are ridiculous! The only thing I have bought there was a LORD OF THE RINGS ring for my wife some years ago. Frank
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Post by wbill76 on Feb 8, 2016 16:29:50 GMT -5
Looks like you're whipping the crew box into shape Dierk! Definitely an improvement over what you started with, no question about that. Keep at it buddy!
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Post by armorguy on Feb 9, 2016 6:17:21 GMT -5
I watched Allo Allo ? for years and that's why I speak German too ! Thanks for the link Frank ! You're gonna finish yours and I'll be at front row watching it !
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Post by dierk on Feb 9, 2016 6:42:37 GMT -5
I watched Allo Allo ? for years and that's why I speak German too ! So did I! that's why I now speak fluent French! And never forget: a German joke is no laughing matter
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Post by Return_To_Kit_Form on Feb 9, 2016 11:36:08 GMT -5
In for a penny in for a pound! What a great subject to test your kitbashing skills! Keep at it mate we are all looking forward to seeing how you get on Brett
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Post by dierk on Feb 9, 2016 12:28:42 GMT -5
Looks like you're whipping the crew box into shape Dierk! Definitely an improvement over what you started with, no question about that. Keep at it buddy! Thanks Bill! I'm really enjoying it - apart from the sawing...just had to order some replacement blades, as they keep getting stuck and then bend all over the place In for a penny in for a pound! What a great subject to test your kitbashing skills! Keep at it mate we are all looking forward to seeing how you get on Brett Cheers Brett (do yourself a favour and don't look up what your name means in German ) Due to being in purgatory Germany for my sins it's 'in for a cent, in for a euro' Thanks for taking an interest in checking out my first foray into scratching. Well, I kept you in suspenders long enough: not quite finished, but after a couple of hours of sawing, cutting and sanding (did I mention that the plastic is ultra hard and thick?), the first joint is fully articulated - I'm glad this is a hobby and not a job! If it was the latter I'd have told my boss exactly which orifice he can insert his job into : Still got to make up the inside of the 'knee' and fill the 'thigh/drum stick': The knee-joint is a composite of three styrene discs made using the above mentioned punch set, glued together and drilled through the middle so I could stick an 'axle' through it and also on one edge so I could use a bit of wire to peg it to the lower leg. While I was at it, I punched out the discs for the other leg too. When using these puches you should do one disc, remove it from the punch, next disc, etc. NOT all the discs one after the other without removing each one...ask me how I found that out I'll say say this much: removal involved curses in several languages, hot water and brute force...that'll learn me...
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Post by kaytermarram on Feb 9, 2016 12:57:08 GMT -5
No need to quitt, I can imagine how you work! And I see the end of the project before my eyes and it will look really cool when it comes out the way you planned. Maybe the model can be used for stop motion film making, harhar!
Frank
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Post by Return_To_Kit_Form on Feb 9, 2016 20:52:13 GMT -5
(do yourself a favour and don't look up what your name means in German ) Well that's torn it! You know I just had to after you mentioned it I guess the term "thick as two short planks" sums it up nicely! Brett
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Post by panzerjager2 on Feb 9, 2016 23:50:54 GMT -5
Very cool, looking forward to seeing this finished
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