sturmbird
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Post by sturmbird on Oct 14, 2017 15:26:45 GMT -5
Here's what I can do for you. I did a check on the Voyager website last night, and they sell a complete photo etch fret for the Panthers, and they also sell a mini fret for just the grill screens. Now they list the "G" as different from what they call out as "D/A". It appears the D and A are similar! I got you covered with the Dragon "A" fret. I also have the Eduard fret (the big one) for the kit. I'm going to order in the big Voyager set for another "A" build, so will not need the Dragon fret anyway. How you fixed for barrels?
gary
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Post by Leon on Oct 14, 2017 16:07:25 GMT -5
That's great Gary!  I did'nt want to put you through a lot of trouble for a few grill screens.I'm good on the barrel.  |
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Post by Leon on Oct 14, 2017 16:18:41 GMT -5
Afternoon fellas! Finally started the track last night and did a little more today.I'm starting to like indy tracks,but i keep forgetting to leave the upper hull off till their assembled and formed.It would make things so much easier.   001 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr  002 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr  003 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr Thanks for looking! |
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sturmbird
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Post by sturmbird on Oct 14, 2017 19:07:09 GMT -5
when you get the chance, P.M. me a mailing address.
gary
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Post by Tojo72 on Oct 14, 2017 20:35:55 GMT -5
Good work on the MT's Leon,their not fun but they beat DS and who wants to buy Fruils for every build.
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Post by panzerjager2 on Oct 14, 2017 22:19:06 GMT -5
Looking great Leon...... she looks like she'll be breaking through towards Prokhorovka anytime now. 
PJ2
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Post by Leon on Oct 15, 2017 2:59:13 GMT -5
Anthony,thank you! Could'nt afford Fruils for every build. PJ,thank you! Getting close now. |
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Post by pt109 on Oct 16, 2017 18:39:01 GMT -5
Looking nice Leon, will this be a Kursk vehicle? I know the box art indicates the 52 Battalion etc.
I have this same kit and it's a good one....Paul
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Post by dierk on Oct 17, 2017 3:07:51 GMT -5
Looking good Leon!
If you fit the skirts you should be able to get away without the top run of the tracks.
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Post by Leon on Oct 17, 2017 4:31:13 GMT -5
Dierk,thank you! I've been thinking about not using the top run of tracks. Paul,thank you! Yes this will be a Kursk vehicle.I plan on going with the box art. |
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Post by TRM on Oct 17, 2017 5:55:38 GMT -5
Looking great Leon! (LOL) yeah, prepping the tracks prior to the top does make things go a bit easier...no pain no gain, right? I try and leave the idler or sprocket loose until the last possible moments. It helps for the most part. Dierk is spot on too...if you have the skirts on...grip-n-rip brotha! |
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Post by dupes on Oct 17, 2017 6:42:43 GMT -5
Hey Leon! Sorry I didn't see this sooner.
The Panther D and A were so similar, you can almost always intermix aftermarket parts for them with no issues (zimmerit is the exception). Take a look at the sprue breakdowns for a Dragon D and A - they use about 90% of the same sprues. Exhaust setup, some tool placement, and pistol and gun port size/type/locations (which is what affects the AM zim sets) are about the only things externally that changed.
Looking good!
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Post by Leon on Oct 17, 2017 10:16:15 GMT -5
Todd, thank you! One of these days i'll learn to leave the top off till the tracks are done. LOL
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Post by Leon on Oct 17, 2017 10:17:47 GMT -5
Dupes, thank you! Your never to late.
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Post by Leon on Oct 23, 2017 18:08:46 GMT -5
Evening fellas! No progress to report tonight.This PE fret arrived today from Strumbird ( Gary ) and it looks like all the grills are going to be a perfect fit.  Going to try and use a few more PE items also. A big thank you to Gary for for his help.Much appreciated my friend.  001 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr Thanks for looking in! |
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sturmbird
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Post by sturmbird on Oct 23, 2017 21:50:09 GMT -5
Evening fellas! No progress to report tonight.This PE fret arrived today from Strumbird ( Gary ) and it looks like all the grills are going to be a perfect fit. Going to try and use a few more PE items also. A big thank you to Gary for for his help.Much appreciated my friend. 001 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr Thanks for looking in! your more than welcome my friend. I thought the chain for the travel lock looked interesting. gary |
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Post by Leon on Oct 24, 2017 3:38:13 GMT -5
Your right about that chain Gary! I may use that chain and the ones for the smoke launchers.
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Post by Leon on Oct 24, 2017 4:13:14 GMT -5
Morning fellas! Thought i would add the PE grills before i went to work.Their a perfect fit and big improvement.  001 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr  002 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr Thanks for looking in! |
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Post by Tojo72 on Oct 24, 2017 9:31:41 GMT -5
Looking good Leon,gotta have them at least
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Post by Leon on Oct 24, 2017 11:13:41 GMT -5
Thank you Anthony! PE grills are a must have.
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Post by sturmbird on Oct 24, 2017 14:29:39 GMT -5
Leon,
Awhile back I did a lot of research on Panthers at Kursk Russia. The first group were a little different than a generic Panther D. Mostly in storage boxes, and tools. If memory is right, they didn't have the smoke grenade launchers, but could be wrong. Somebody did an after market kit to build one, but who? Also carried some really interesting paint jobs! Later issue Panthers at Kursk seemed to be more like a standard issue Panther D.
gary
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Post by TRM on Oct 24, 2017 15:54:56 GMT -5
Looking good Leon! Gary to the rescue!! Bring on the colorficatimizing! |
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Post by Leon on Oct 24, 2017 16:09:59 GMT -5
Gary,thank you for the info! I'll have to look into Panthers at Kursk. Todd,thank you! That's what i like about our Forum,everyone trying to help somebody out even if it's something minor. I may try and get some primer on this weekend! Got a major bathroom job that needs my attention first.  |
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Post by pt109 on Oct 24, 2017 20:51:18 GMT -5
Nice update Leon, makes it look much better....
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Post by Leon on Oct 25, 2017 3:45:06 GMT -5
Thank you Paul! |
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Post by Leon on Oct 27, 2017 4:28:41 GMT -5
Morning fellas! Here's some progress from last night.I added the chains to the travel lock and drilled out for the spare track securing pins.The pins are temporary till i get the spare tracks on.Opti visors got a good work out last night.  001 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr  002 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr  003 by Leon Dorak, on Flickr Thanks for looking in! |
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Post by sturmbird on Oct 27, 2017 13:18:07 GMT -5
I found several side shots of Kursk Panthers, but they were all from the driver's side. They had a box about even with the turret on the opposite side. Looks like they did have the smoke dischargers on the turret. There were two head lights on the front, verses the more common one head light. Can't say I've ever seen a shot from the rear. There were some really unusual camo schemes used. try "Bing Images"
gary
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Post by Leon on Oct 27, 2017 15:43:11 GMT -5
Gary,thanks for the info! I've seen the same shots.I'll do a little more searching and see if i can find anything different. |
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Post by panzerjager2 on Oct 27, 2017 18:17:53 GMT -5
Not that anyone asked for my two cents, BUT.......... I have seen Kursk Panthers with Smoke dischargers..... I think, and DON'T hold me to this BUT I think the Panthers were within SS divisions? ?
Leon, it's looking good
PJ2
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Post by Leon on Oct 28, 2017 5:00:03 GMT -5
PJ,thank you and your two cents are always welcome. |
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I did'nt want to put you through a lot of trouble for a few grill screens.I'm good on the barrel. 
Going to try and use a few more PE items also. 
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