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Post by TJ on Jun 25, 2024 17:44:12 GMT -5
Man I bet that was cool. I saw C-5's all the time when I lived in San Antonio. I'd hear and see them flying into Westover AFB in Massachusetts all the time. Unmistakable sound
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Post by mach7 on Jun 25, 2024 18:29:25 GMT -5
The C-5 sounds like a 4 ship of A-10's flying by.
It is a true pilots aircraft. Lockheed builds them right.
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Post by stikpusher on Jun 25, 2024 21:11:40 GMT -5
The trainers sure were fun, but the C-5 was a dream. I flew her low level, airdrop, combat tactics, air refueling, and trash hauling. I loved flying the 5. I can’t imagine flying NOE in a C-5 like I experienced in the back of C-130s and C-141s.
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Post by mach7 on Jun 26, 2024 8:49:35 GMT -5
Carlos,
The 5 did it very well. Day time 300ft in a 223ft wingspan aircraft (with the t-tail 30 ft higher!)
The A's were delivered with full terrain following radar, like the F-111's, and with the ailerons and spoilers for roll she rolled very nicely indeed.
The Air Force did take the TFR off to lengthen the wing life, but it was capability was designed into the aircraft.
Night low level (500ft), 230-250Kts, NVG's, blacked out, combat landings and offloads..... Ahhh to be young again! Those were the glory days.
If Jimmy Carter had let the Air Force use 2 C-5's to bring the Army helicopters in the Iranian hostages would have been rescued. The opps plane was beautiful, it would have worked.
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Post by tcoat on Jun 26, 2024 9:19:06 GMT -5
The C-5 sounds like a 4 ship of A-10's flying by. It is a true pilots aircraft. Lockheed builds them right. I heard one coming into the airfield at Gander when I was there in 81. When I realized what it was I just sat there thinking "please don't need fuel, please don't need fuel". It of course needed fuel. Nobody ever told us WHY though since it should have had plenty to fly from Germany to their U.S. base. As a guy used to fueling Voodoos and Starfighters it felt like it took forever to fill that thing up. I missed supper.
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Post by mach7 on Jun 26, 2024 12:17:13 GMT -5
Yup, 200,000# was a normal load of gas to Europe from Dover.
If all you had were fighter trucks it could take a long time to pump, as the Navy found out on one of my missions to Bermuda. Long story, but I enjoyed telling the O-6 in charge, as he was yelling at me that he had no authority over me.
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Post by Medicman71 on Jun 26, 2024 16:29:33 GMT -5
The C-5 sounds like a 4 ship of A-10's flying by. It is a true pilots aircraft. Lockheed builds them right.
That's exactly the way it sounded.
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Post by stikpusher on Jun 26, 2024 21:46:02 GMT -5
Carlos, The 5 did it very well. Day time 300ft in a 223ft wingspan aircraft (with the t-tail 30 ft higher!) The A's were delivered with full terrain following radar, like the F-111's, and with the ailerons and spoilers for roll she rolled very nicely indeed. The Air Force did take the TFR off to lengthen the wing life, but it was capability was designed into the aircraft. Night low level (500ft), 230-250Kts, NVG's, blacked out, combat landings and offloads..... Ahhh to be young again! Those were the glory days. If Jimmy Carter had let the Air Force use 2 C-5's to bring the Army helicopters in the Iranian hostages would have been rescued. The opps plane was beautiful, it would have worked. Yeah, Eagle Claw was an extremely screwball concept put into action. Each service needed to have a piece of the pie for credit. At the very least I wonder if Air Force Pave Low pilots would have performed better. A C-5 can perform the austere unprepared airfield ops like a C-130?
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Post by mach7 on Jun 27, 2024 8:31:32 GMT -5
The C-5A had soft field/sand capability built into it, the Air Force and Lockheed tested it but we never used it operationally (that I know of). I have seen opps plans that included its use. Take off weight needed to be low, but thats not a real issue, the stuff we brought in wasn't coming out and most of the fuel would have been used. We would have needed a tanker soon after take off.
I can't remember if the tire partial deflate system was removed from the C-5B, I know the crosswind landing gear was.
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Post by stikpusher on Jun 27, 2024 14:29:45 GMT -5
The C-5A had soft field/sand capability built into it, the Air Force and Lockheed tested it but we never used it operationally (that I know of). I have seen opps plans that included its use. Take off weight needed to be low, but thats not a real issue, the stuff we brought in wasn't coming out and most of the fuel would have been used. We would have needed a tanker soon after take off. I can't remember if the tire partial deflate system was removed from the C-5B, I know the crosswind landing gear was. Very enlightening! I never knew that the C-5 had such capabilities. I’ve operated with C-130s doing that sort of thing…. New respect for the C-5 here now. I vaguely remember reading that CCTs were inserted and extracted into Desert One, weeks or more prior to the op, in order to check on that site’s viability for use in Eagle Claw.
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Post by Steve Zuleski on Jun 28, 2024 20:29:20 GMT -5
The trainers sure were fun, but the C-5 was a dream. I flew her low level, airdrop, combat tactics, air refueling, and trash hauling. I loved flying the 5. Might you have been the crew that took the 49th TFW to Denmark in 84? Now that would be a trip, and it was a great trip, btw, lol. Saw a few stop in Panama from 85-87.
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Post by mach7 on Jun 28, 2024 21:18:09 GMT -5
Sorry Steve,
It wasn't me, I was still on the C-23 in Zweibrucken.
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Post by TJ on Jun 29, 2024 3:30:25 GMT -5
Growing up in CT I saw C-5s, A-10s, and the occasional Mass ANG F-15, and VTANG F-16. I was always looking up
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jun 30, 2024 3:05:56 GMT -5
We have an Indiana national guard air guard support center right outside our town. Houses a fair number of blackhawks all the time. I’ve seen a Chinook go over the house a couple times. That’s always cool. And growing up A-10s made passes over the house quite frequently. Sadly (for me anyways) the 122nd fighter wing has transitioned back to F16s. I have yet to see any of them fly over.
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