Eduard Decals

[paddy]

  Eduard introduced a new type of Decal in the early 2020's. The idea being that you can remove the carrier film after the decal has been placed and dried.
The advantage of this is it removes the problem of silvering of the carrier film both on and around the decal. 

So does it work ?........well yes and its not quiet as frightening to do as you might expect. You just spent several months and a small bank loan to build your latest masterpiece and the thought of ruining it at the final stage might make you just fit the decals as you always would with future and flat coats etc.

A picture is worth a thousand words they say

Lay down your decal as you normally would using  micro set



















The carrier film is very evident while the decal is wet with microset

[paddy]

The above pictures show the dried decal and i have angled the item toi really show thesilvering and carrier film so this looks worse than it normally does with a casual glance



And this picture show the decal after it had dried overnight and i added white spirit to the surface.

[paddy]

Within a few minutes or less of adding the white spirit you can start to work the carrier film with a soft brush and roll it to one side much like peeling skin after sunburn











And this is the result, a matt finish that looks pretty much painted on to the surface.





I use MRP paints which have ultra fine pigments so the above was done straight on the paint but if you were using tamiya paint for instance you would probably need to  future or gloss the surface first, this is to get a smooth surface for the decal to stick too so the decal does not come off with the carrier film. Using MPR i never need to gloss before decals.

Please note..........this will not work with any decals except Eduards own after 2019 ish...

[armornutii]

   Hey paddy thanks for sharing. I need to check my stash and see if my decals are those new type, that is slick.

[406 Silverado]

Now THAT is some very useful information paddy! I would've never known this. White spirits....I think I know what that is but could you shed a little more light on that?

+1 Karma to you bud.

[deafpanzer]

I used the similar new decals on my Eduard Spitfire recently and it came out GREAT!!! I admit I was very nervous at first but after watching couple of YouTube video clips which helped me. The result was just amazing and very flat with none of shiny at the end!



I hope other manufacturers will follow suit too. Also I wonder if there are aftermarket decals makers that use same stuff out there too so I can order those for other kits?

[paddy]

This from Wiki

White spirit (AU, UK and Ireland) or mineral spirits (US, Canada), also known as mineral turpentine (AU/NZ), turpentine substitute, and petroleum spirits, is a petroleum-derived clear liquid used as a common organic solvent in painting.

Hope this helps

[deafpanzer]

Thank you for starting this thread too!!!

[Joe Rix]

Thank You very much for taking the time to post this step by step process Paddy. Hugely informative. I have acquired some MRP paints but, have yet to use them on a model. Your suggestions are duly regarded. Some good karma is headed your way.

[kyledehart5]

Nice!! I think I have some of these decals in the double Zero boxing I have. Good to know how this works.

[buddho]

Thank you for sharing and showing the actual process. 🤓

[dupes]

I've read about this before (I think I still have the link to the "official" Eduard tutorial), but never in conjunction with using the mineral spirits. Interesting! I wonder if the "odorless" variants would work similarly. Hmmmm. Great tutorial!

[paddy]

Yes this was the odorless version i used above.
Strangely Eduard make no mention of these decals in their instructions which is why its taken me 4 years to even know these things existed despite building other Eduard kits during that time.

[406 Silverado]

Oct 4, 2023 14:37:41 GMT -5 paddy said:

Yes this was the odorless version i used above.
Strangely Eduard make no mention of these decals in their instructions which is why its taken me 4 years to even know these things existed despite building other Eduard kits during that time.

Go figure.....right?? I never knew this either and I'm glad you brought it all to light Paddy.

[adt70hk]

I only heard about those recently and someone I know did a Zero with them. They look like they had been painted on!!

Thanks for the tutorial!

[dupes]

Oct 4, 2023 14:37:41 GMT -5 paddy said:

Yes this was the odorless version i used above.
Strangely Eduard make no mention of these decals in their instructions which is why its taken me 4 years to even know these things existed despite building other Eduard kits during that time.

They did at one point in one of their monthly newsletters. Let me see if I can track it down!

[dupes]

Here it is. Scroll down to page 52 for Eduard's "official" tutorial.

www.eduard.com/out/media/InfoEduard/archive/2021/info-eduard-2021-05-enrr.pdf

[dupes]

Apparently any of the decals that have a production date after June 23, 2020 are the "new" style that will react like this.

[kyledehart5]

Oct 4, 2023 16:09:35 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

Oct 4, 2023 14:37:41 GMT -5 paddy said:

Yes this was the odorless version i used above.
Strangely Eduard make no mention of these decals in their instructions which is why its taken me 4 years to even know these things existed despite building other Eduard kits during that time.

Go figure.....right?? I never knew this either and I'm glad you brought it all to light Paddy.

Same!!! I built the Eduardegawa 2021 Angel of Mercy boxing of the B-25. That had a whole notebook full of Eduard’s in house decals. Carrier film was never mentioned. I had no idea.

[kyledehart5]

Oct 4, 2023 22:15:42 GMT -5 dupes said:

Apparently any of the decals that have a production date after June 23, 2020 are the "new" style that will react like this.

I’m sure glad I know this now. 😂

[stikpusher]

Oct 4, 2023 14:37:41 GMT -5 paddy said:

Yes this was the odorless version i used above.
Strangely Eduard make no mention of these decals in their instructions which is why its taken me 4 years to even know these things existed despite building other Eduard kits during that time.

Yeah, the first kit of theirs that I heard of these decals being part of was the new 1/48 Zero. So whenever that kit came out.

[paddy]

I just bought the Eduard Zero with the advanced kit (engine/flaps etc) because i am a sucker for punishment

[kyledehart5]

Oct 5, 2023 13:53:51 GMT -5 paddy said:

I just bought the Eduard Zero with the advanced kit (engine/flaps etc) because i am a sucker for punishment

well I’ll be looking forward to that. I’ve always loved the zero and while I plan to build both my Eduard ones I am not going to do anything crazy with them. Lol

[disc0stu]

Oct 4, 2023 14:37:41 GMT -5 paddy said:

Yes this was the odorless version i used above.
Strangely Eduard make no mention of these decals in their instructions which is why its taken me 4 years to even know these things existed despite building other Eduard kits during that time.

I know I am two months late to this thread but you have solved a major issue I have been having with Eduard lately.  I was really struggling with the quality of their decals in their recent releases.  I've been forking over cash for aftermarket decal sets.  Thank you so much for this information!   You've saved my sanity and my wallet with this information!  Especially since easily a quarter of my stash are Eduard kits.

[paddy]

Remember its only the later decals from about 2020 on..maybe some 2019..