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Post by adt70hk on Dec 30, 2023 8:26:17 GMT -5
Good afternoon all So ahead of the official start date on the 1st I thought I'd start my thread, although I obviously won't cut any plastic until then. As you can see from the title, one will be done as an A-8 fighter version and the other as the F-8 Jabo version. These are actually the first ever 190s I have ever done. They will both be done 'wheels up' in flight as their supposed to be for the little battles Junior and I have. The original release was the A-8 in 2013 (my one is apparently a 2018 rebox for starter kit purposes). The F-8 was released in the same year, with the added parts for the bombs and racks, albeit the payload is apparently a bit limited. The A-8 was a £7 Aldi purchase from this time last year, although I see it doesn't have the full decal sheet i.e. no stencils unlike the F-8. Nevertheless, when you consider the pair cost me only £18, you can't really complain - even allowing for the minor shortcomings noted by most reviewers. I've also bought an AM set of decals for the Jabo but I'm not sure if I'll use them; we will see. I have also bought some canopy masks as usual. Below is the usual set of pre-build taster pics, although as the sprues are identical (save for the bomb sprue) I have only taken shots of the F-8 sprues. The destruction images of the paint job are for the F-8 version. ACW as usual. Andrew Useful links:www.scalemates.com/kits/airfix-a02066-focke-wulf-fw190-f-8-a-8--173949www.modelingmadness.com/scott/axis/previews/airfix/a02066.htmwww.hyperscale.com/2014/reviews/kits/airfixa02066reviewmd_1.htmreviews.ipmsusa.org/review/focke-wulf-fw-190a-8-------------------------------------------------------------------- ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53277073322_3875ea2484_b.jpg) ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53427127939_c15e501d3e_b.jpg) The Airfix A-8 decals are top right; the F-8 are at the bottom. These are the AM decals for the F-8.![](https://live.staticflickr.com/4710/40414033082_786c46d9c8_b.jpg) ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/4624/40457973021_e1c23556e7_b.jpg) ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/4631/25586885067_4ae2d7d2f6_b.jpg) ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/4666/40457950931_a62bb4b590_b.jpg) ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53430738036_b742005e25_c.jpg)
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Post by thechaos on Dec 30, 2023 10:03:20 GMT -5
Great i am o Board.
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I’m all in on this one too!!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Dec 30, 2023 17:57:56 GMT -5
Ah yes. This looks like it’s going to be great. I’m here for it.
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Post by adt70hk on Dec 31, 2023 5:07:21 GMT -5
Great i am o Board. I’m all in on this one too!! Ah yes. This looks like it’s going to be great. I’m here for it. Good to have you aboard chaps! Actually, I might be cutting plastic sooner than I thought. It's club night on Tuesday so I can start to get the basics done there!
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Post by handiabled on Dec 31, 2023 10:20:50 GMT -5
Bookmarked! Looking forward to this!
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Post by Green KreationZ on Dec 31, 2023 20:49:38 GMT -5
Both of these birds are going to be spectacular if you put a similar amount work into them as the Yak you recently finished. I’ll be following along!
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Post by dupes on Dec 31, 2023 23:21:51 GMT -5
Oooooh, nifty. I'm doing the Eduard 1/72 F-8, so this will be an interesting comparison.
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Post by adt70hk on Jan 1, 2024 5:42:02 GMT -5
dupes, Green KreationZ, handiabledWelcome aboard! I'll try to find some space for you in the front row! Dupes - it will be interesting to see how they compare, although I expect the Eduard kit to have the edge by some way. I won't be using any fancy PE give what they're going to be used for either. Out of interest is it a genuine Eduard kit or a rebox? I bought one of their ProfiPACK 1/72 Hurricanes earlier this year and it turned out to be a reboxing of an Arma Hobby Hurricane, by all accounts the best around at this scale - oh and I won it an eBay auction for only £12 delivered, so I was doubly happy! TS - I'll try not to let you down! Thanks again for joining the party!!
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Post by adt70hk on Jan 1, 2024 8:36:53 GMT -5
Excellent! I see you've even bought your own popcorn!!
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Post by Real G on Jan 2, 2024 14:14:38 GMT -5
Oh man, if you do the wiggly camouflage on the F8, I wish you luck! At my age, I have found intricate camo schemes really difficult on 1/72 single engine planes. But it will no doubt look spectacular if you do brave it!
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 4, 2024 17:33:02 GMT -5
I'll get Brian ( chromdome35) to give you a $100 cash if you'll pull that camo scheme on the left off Andrew. ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/4700/26587144858_eceb63b8f7_b.jpg)
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Post by deafpanzer on Jan 4, 2024 20:37:42 GMT -5
Sweet! I agree that Brian should give you $100 if you go for that wild camo scheme! LOL
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Post by hasenpfeffer on Jan 4, 2024 20:49:15 GMT -5
Hey Andrew, if you're up for the challenge - and want to earn that hundo quid... let me know. I have a book that describes how to do that very scheme... I'll certainly share.
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Post by Joe Rix on Jan 5, 2024 1:19:28 GMT -5
Great choices Andrew. It is going to be very exciting to see you build these kits. Man, with your skills pulling off that squiggly scheme will be easy money. I have complete faith in you.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 5, 2024 7:22:59 GMT -5
Hey Andrew, if you're up for the challenge - and want to earn that hundo quid... let me know. I have a book that describes how to do that very scheme... I'll certainly share. Well, you might as well spill it Dave......cuz I wanna know.
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Post by hasenpfeffer on Jan 5, 2024 16:21:45 GMT -5
Hey Andrew, if you're up for the challenge - and want to earn that hundo quid... let me know. I have a book that describes how to do that very scheme... I'll certainly share. Well, you might as well spill it Dave......cuz I wanna know. Well, if Andrew wants me to post it here, I will. But I will leave it up to him. If not, I'll post it elsewhere for ya... like maybe the GB thread.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 5, 2024 16:24:24 GMT -5
Well, you might as well spill it Dave......cuz I wanna know. Well, if Andrew wants me to post it here, I will. But I will leave it up to him. If not, I'll post it elsewhere for ya... like maybe the GB thread. No worries. I saw that scheme several years ago in the Aero Detail Fw190 A series book and thought it was the coolest thing ever. My skills weren't (and still aren't) up for that one. Sounds good wherever you post it though. Thanks bud.
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Post by adt70hk on Jan 6, 2024 5:33:46 GMT -5
Oh man, if you do the wiggly camouflage on the F8, I wish you luck! At my age, I have found intricate camo schemes really difficult on 1/72 single engine planes. But it will no doubt look spectacular if you do brave it! Neal Thanks very much. I hear you on that. I tried doing a not dissimilar pattern on a 109 but grey over blue instead and that was tricky. But as you'll see below it may not be quite as hard as we all think...... I'll get Brian ( chromdome35 ) to give you a $100 cash if you'll pull that camo scheme on the left off Andrew. ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/4700/26587144858_eceb63b8f7_b.jpg) Sweet! I agree that Brian should give you $100 if you go for that wild camo scheme! LOL Gentleman..... I can't help noticing that you're being rather free with someone else's money i.e. Brian's! Whilst this is a very friendly place....this strikes me as stretching the boundaries somewhat! Unless of course that is, he's already given you his approval, in which case I'm open to some negotiation.....for example, it would have to be £100 sterling and not this new fangled USD$ currency you're all so fond of ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) ....otherwise I'd lose out on the exchange rate! Hey Andrew, if you're up for the challenge - and want to earn that hundo quid... let me know. I have a book that describes how to do that very scheme... I'll certainly share. Dave - please, please feel free to post away. Seriously, I'm always willing to learn and it could be a great resource for someone else out there. Oh and I'm glad to see you think it should be £100 too and not $100! Great choices Andrew. It is going to be very exciting to see you build these kits. Man, with your skills pulling off that squiggly scheme will be easy money. I have complete faith in you. Joe - I am flattered by the confidence you have in me....I just wish I had it in myself! Ok gents so as usual a great set of comments both funny and serious.....and it's certainly the first time I have ever been offered payment to do a particular camo scheme. However...... I have been doing some research and have also been having a discussion on the other forum I am on about Red 2. It has raised some interesting issues about 'Red 2', a summary of which is as follows: - 'Red 2' does not have a bomb slung beneath but an 'abwurfbehalter' (aka an AB 250). It was explained that this is basically a cluster munition container that hinged at the tail. The good news is that the Airfix kit appears to contain one.
- Someone on the Britmodeller site suggests that it is unlikely to have been 'red' 2 at all (here).
- Someone on the other site I am on, who is a great modeller, very knowledgeable and whose opinions are very well respected, explained that the other person is very well respected in the community and that he may well have a point. However, he also said that no one can be absolutely certain about the colour e.g. it could be blue or even black - but saying all that, he himself has modelled it as 'Red 2'.
- This same person also provided a picture of the actual plane (below) and as you can see, the actual camo job was much messier than the box art and destructions would have you believe - so for once some overspray might be quite helpful!
- A friend pointed out that Eduard's instructions show it as Blue 2 (here)....but he prefers the red option too.
That said, I might still do it in red and with the winter camo as a learning exercise......even though it will be completely wrong for the little battles Junior and I have. I also made a very small amount of progress too at model club on Tuesday evening and have the basics of one of the cockpits together. The good news for Hans and Herman is that, unlike their Airfix 1/72 WWII RAF counterparts, I won't have to chop their feet off to make them fit! I also think I have worked out a way of making the flight stand work, so it can can be removed for storage. Thanks as always for stopping by and apologies for the late reply. Andrew ------------------------------------------ The cluster munition on the sprue: 'Hans' looking nice and comfortable:
The real 'Red 2':As you can see the camo is a pretty mucky job...... ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53445812956_2e8e3f9f30_b.jpg)
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 6, 2024 8:40:03 GMT -5
hasenpfeffer................... ![](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/8416/cCRZMc.gif) You'll be getting +3 Karma for that bro.
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Post by adt70hk on Apr 13, 2024 2:36:46 GMT -5
Dave I have VERY belatedly realised that I did not say thank you for the above that really is very kind of you.....so very sorry but it has been a trying start to the year, plus I wanted to get my Jagdpanthers over the line. As for Aldi stocking kits, it's only a few times a year and for a short period, so you have to get in quick. Thanks again. Andrew
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Post by adt70hk on Apr 13, 2024 2:47:08 GMT -5
Good morning all So a small update......only three and a half months after the start of this GB. Over the past few months I have managed to get some building done - albeit VERY slowly and then yesterday managed to get down the internal RLM66 colour. You'll also note from the below that I'm doing both of these wheels up. I've also sprayed the inside of the wings and wheel wells black just to make sure no light seeps through from anywhere. Oh........and you'll note a fairly large hole in both of the bottom wing/fuselage sections but more about that later! ATB Andrew ![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53650405916_65228f09d2_b.jpg)
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Post by handiabled on Apr 13, 2024 3:55:57 GMT -5
It's great to see you have this on the bench! Sounds like you have the way this is going to be displayed well planned already
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Post by adt70hk on Apr 13, 2024 5:13:55 GMT -5
It's great to see you have this on the bench! Sounds like you have the way this is going to be displayed well planned already Thanks Brent. It's good to finally have them on the go! ATB Andrew
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Post by 406 Silverado on Apr 13, 2024 7:33:13 GMT -5
It's great to see you have this on the bench! Sounds like you have the way this is going to be displayed well planned already Thanks Brent. It's good to finally have them on the go! ATB Andrew Well alrighty then!!! Good to see you back on these again Andrew and you've got my curiosity up about those holes in the bottom of the wings. Will be watching for more.......
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Post by lyle on Apr 13, 2024 7:46:51 GMT -5
Way to go! What is the old adage? "Slow and steady wins the race."?
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Post by adt70hk on Apr 14, 2024 7:28:54 GMT -5
Thanks Brent. It's good to finally have them on the go! ATB Andrew Well alrighty then!!! Good to see you back on these again Andrew and you've got my curiosity up about those holes in the bottom of the wings. Will be watching for more....... Thanks Joe! I'm glad to have them back on the bench. A while ago I discovered that those holes should/could ideally have been slightly further back and then sitting looking at the pics yesterday I had another way that I think might have worked.....but all will become in due course! Thanks again chaps. Andrew Way to go! What is the old adage? "Slow and steady wins the race."? Thanks Lyle.....slow and steady...true! But glacial maybe not!!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Apr 15, 2024 1:25:17 GMT -5
Excellent!! I’m also glad to see you back on these.
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