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Post by reserve on Jan 14, 2024 11:31:56 GMT -5
Despite the warmup it's still freezy cold out and I need something to do. Accordingly, I'll start an oldy moldy this time. Seems decent but reading some build logs on this kit warned me of not so great fit and some parts interference, and because of the latter this one's gonna be a closed cockpit as I'm not willing to go thru the contortions needed to make it open correctly. There is some plastic shrinkage along some of the seams on the fuselage and drop tanks so some divots need to be filled. The plastic is of the hard variety but still glues well with Tammy quick-grab. I seem to be doing alot of grey aircraft these days. For a small change up I got some AM decals that allow for a slightly different paint scheme; I figure on doing the top one. With luck the decals will not disintigrate on me Sub assemblies I did get hold of the Tammy 1/48 Sea Harrier cheap but when I opened the box I was shocked to find it a horror story so this one was acquired to take its place
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Post by nathant on Jan 14, 2024 19:40:39 GMT -5
Nice! I’m a Harrier fan and have a Hasegawa G.R. 7 stalled right now on the bench. It’s a good kit overall with good details but there are lots of fit issues and gotchas with this kit. Watch the nose to fuselage join to get the angle right, and the wing to lerex join. Also, to pose the canopy open there some air scoops that need to be relocated. These are just a few warnings but I know there are more I forgot.
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Post by Green KreationZ on Jan 14, 2024 23:49:53 GMT -5
I had wondered how this kit was. I actually had it on my Christmas list, but went down a deep IJN rabbit hole and decided to remove it in favor of Japanese related things. I’ll be checking in on this build!
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Post by handiabled on Jan 15, 2024 10:04:35 GMT -5
Watching with interest! I had eyed this myself, are you doing straight OOB or adding any AM to it?
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Post by deafpanzer on Jan 15, 2024 13:03:37 GMT -5
NICE!!! I don't think I have seen one built before so you have my attention too. Good luck!
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Post by Joe Rix on Jan 15, 2024 13:28:56 GMT -5
Sweet subject. Should be a fun build to watch. I'm quite sure that the shortcomings will be addressed well with your skills.
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Post by TJ on Jan 15, 2024 19:17:34 GMT -5
I'll be following. Have this in the stash with some Two Bobs decals
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Post by reserve on Jan 15, 2024 20:41:28 GMT -5
Nathan's right in his assessment I think, and thank you for the warnings
H after dry fitting the cockpit section I found not much of it will be visible, and the kit decals are sufficent to make what one can see busy enough. Now it's beginning to show signs of a fight to come that I've decided I'm not gonna make any worse by adding AM so the decals will be the extent of any extras.
Fit is kind of sloppy in places; I stuck the IP in the cockpit tub and found it would move back and forth .200" or so. Instead of guessing it was right I ended up dry fitting the hood to the tub to make sure until the glue dried. I have a feeling I'm gonna have alot of parts loose in the box due to this technique.
I don't think this will be awful but I do think it will make me work for it some. Of course I'd probably say that about most anything after that Academy A-10 which by now I'm sure you blokes are getting tired of me talking up
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Post by Medicman71 on Jan 16, 2024 19:24:16 GMT -5
I have this kit in the stash so I'll be watching to see how it goes.
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Post by reserve on Jan 18, 2024 12:19:53 GMT -5
Right then The lousy fit reputaion of this kit is not undeserved but it's not truly awful. The nastiest gaps seem to show up on the underside and since I'll display the finished product right side up this does not bother me overly Cockpit and nose installed with nasty gap in the intakes Nasty gap eliminated with my favorite goo Wings and associated parts dry fit and it ain't right Cause of the ain't rightness. I have no idea what went wrong here but this part is obviously too long. After some consideration, I reduced the rear of this part with a file as this would have the least of consequences How it all ended up fitting. Not great but not over awful One of the larger gaps present bacause I tried to line up the fuselage/wing joints to eliminate steps. This will be easy to deal with and mostly out of sight I decided to drill out the chaff dispensers as I did not think they were molded over well. Every time I sit down I do another row or two which keeps the drudgery compnent smaller If I'd paid 50-60 bucks for this I'd have been hacked off. Since I got it from Amazon for just a little over thirty I'm only mildly annoyed; after all I did have fair warning. This still has the chance to turn out to be an acceptable model
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Post by brandonk on Jan 18, 2024 15:19:36 GMT -5
Nice to see this build. Even though it appears to be a sub-par kit, I wonder if it is as bad as the old Tamiya kit. That would be a stretch, because that kit sucks. You're making fine work of this one.
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Post by TJ on Jan 18, 2024 15:57:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the areas to look out for
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Post by reserve on Jan 18, 2024 18:06:11 GMT -5
Brandon it is a sub par kit but considering its molds were machined twenty years ago I can't bash it too bad. It is much better than the Tammy; when I opened the box I looked for two minutes and closed it back up permanently. I was very surprised to see what I saw in a Tammy kit.
TJ you're welcome but the nasty list is not over yet
I'm not over dismayed by the nasties I've encountered but no one else molds one of these in this scale...HobbyBoss does in 1/18 tho get behind me Satan
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Post by nathant on Jan 18, 2024 18:14:31 GMT -5
Keep at it. The top wing to lerex joint is the worst, I had to use a resin one on my build so I was unaware of how bad the original plastic one fits. The worst should be behind you now, this kit looks great when finished.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 18, 2024 18:27:42 GMT -5
Man.....you're just blazin' through this one Mark and in good fashion at that. I've never tried one of these Harrier builds but this looks like a decent kit of it. Watching the magic unfold......
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Post by reserve on Jan 18, 2024 20:39:35 GMT -5
Thanks Nate, Joe I will keep on this
So I been thinkin, always dangerous, and here we have a model with a sparse cockpit and a canopy you can't have open without alot of extra trouble. Moreover, Hasegawa does not provide wheel wells or gear doors which is kind of odd, don't think I've ever seen that before.
So what's a bloke to do? Perhaps fill the sparse cockpit with a figure, fill in the holes for the landing gear struts, and pose the thing as in flight with a snazzy custom made stand. At least I'll not have a propeller to try to figure out how to make look like it's spinning
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Post by TJ on Jan 19, 2024 5:32:04 GMT -5
Wait, no landing gear doors???
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 19, 2024 5:35:10 GMT -5
Wait, no landing gear doors??? I saw that and I wouldn't expect that from Hasegawa.
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Post by reserve on Jan 19, 2024 9:17:20 GMT -5
No doors, no wells
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 19, 2024 9:21:13 GMT -5
Well, given your talents I know you'll pull this off without a hitch Mark. That is definitely out of the ordinary for Hasegawa to omit those parts.
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Post by handiabled on Jan 19, 2024 9:31:59 GMT -5
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Post by lyle on Jan 19, 2024 9:33:38 GMT -5
Lotsa pieces/parts. The Harrier is a classic aircraft.
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Post by reserve on Jan 20, 2024 18:33:28 GMT -5
Thanks gents H I'd briefly considered that but was unwilling to spend the extra squeeze and now I'm locked into the in flight on a stand plan. This has not been the best of kits My little jarhead pilot The mutt's ready for primer We'll see how good a job I did on all those nasty joints and seams soon
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 20, 2024 18:37:31 GMT -5
That pilot looks pretty sharp Mark! Looking forward to seeing the paint work on this. I’ll bet that your joins work on this one is gonna be A-OK.
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Post by reserve on Jan 21, 2024 19:57:36 GMT -5
Thanks Joe Primer and paint on the bottom I'll let it sit for 24 hours or so before I start to mask off the upper surfaces
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Post by brandonk on Jan 21, 2024 20:04:07 GMT -5
Given the issues you are having with this one I will chock this one up to a "no thanks". I'll have to consider a different maker if I do another. Maybe Kinetic. IDK. Your work is looking great and you are winning the battle.
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Post by TJ on Jan 21, 2024 20:09:48 GMT -5
Given the issues you are having with this one I will chock this one up to a "no thanks". I'll have to consider a different maker if I do another. Maybe Kinetic. IDK. Your work is looking great and you are winning the battle. Kinetic only does the A not a B
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Post by brandonk on Jan 21, 2024 20:12:26 GMT -5
Given the issues you are having with this one I will chock this one up to a "no thanks". I'll have to consider a different maker if I do another. Maybe Kinetic. IDK. Your work is looking great and you are winning the battle. Kinetic only does the A not a B Ya, I'm not looking for any particular Harrier, any will do as long as they are not like the Tamiya or Hawegawa kits.
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Post by reserve on Jan 23, 2024 17:54:28 GMT -5
Yeah B I'd not do another one of these myself Other than the clear coats and detail in a couple spots paint's done I'll shiny coat it when I get home from work tomorrow so sez the plan
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Post by reserve on Jan 28, 2024 1:13:11 GMT -5
Done, and it's almost a relief Many things went wrong on this one. If I'd known about the wheel well omission on this kit I'd have bypassed it. Fit was poor in spots and the transparencies are not all that transparent altho this turned out for the best given the sparse cockpit detail provided. I used Tammy light grey, XF-66 I think, on the bottom and it turned out to have a blue cast to it I did not expect. I did not get the upper surfaces a dark enough grey. I used Flying Leathernecks vinyl canopy masks and they lifted in spots so I got a few spots of primer on the clear parts that ain't supposed to be there, and the AM decals by the same company were awful to work with...I lost many of them while trying to apply them so it's another one sided model. I figure it turned out well enough to occupy a dark corner of the display case. I have one more Hasegawa kit in the stash, the A-4 Skyhawk that I'm looking at sideways after this one. Seems this company is pretty hit and miss as I recall their F-104 to be a delightful model to build
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