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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 30, 2024 5:54:21 GMT -5
stikpusher Steve Zuleski Thanks guys... 406 Silverado You got that beating part nearly right: I tried to see if the engine could be coaxed so that the plates would fit, which ended with a great crunch! Not only did the engine mount break, but also several ducts and the mounting frames for the cowling plates were broken and twisted... I managed to get it all in place again, but had to extend one of the engine mount frames with evergreen to get it all to fit. Of course on the side I left open! Of course it is always with these things that it won't be noticed until so many steps further in the build that dry fitting it pointless as it cannot be seen in an earlier phase... Yeesh!! I hate those "crunchy" sounds that late in a build. Looking forward to the continued recovery process Erwin.
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Post by Golikell on Jan 30, 2024 7:32:59 GMT -5
The recovery actually has been completed, now it is going forward again...
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Post by lyle on Jan 30, 2024 9:55:58 GMT -5
Excellent work. Great looking cockpit, and, well...all over. way to go on getting the cowling pieces back in line.
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Post by stikpusher on Jan 30, 2024 12:52:26 GMT -5
The recovery actually has been completed, now it is going forward again... Well, at least you can fix it... unlike the 1/48 ICM Spitfire kits.
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Post by Golikell on Jan 31, 2024 2:35:10 GMT -5
lyle Thanks... The cockpit was enhanced using the Quita studios set... Makes a huge difference... stikpusher Are they that bad?
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 31, 2024 5:55:45 GMT -5
The recovery actually has been completed, now it is going forward again... Looking forward to the next update Erwin.
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Post by robbo on Jan 31, 2024 9:30:58 GMT -5
I left all my engine on show, seems such a shame to cover it up
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Post by stikpusher on Jan 31, 2024 17:13:20 GMT -5
lyle Thanks... The cockpit was enhanced using the Quita studios set... Makes a huge difference... stikpusher Are they that bad? Erwin, in and of themselves, the kits are pretty nice. But they have a full engine like this one, and if you install the engine, the cowling parts will not fit properly around it.
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Post by Golikell on Feb 1, 2024 2:08:17 GMT -5
I know this from the Hellcat and Typhoon kits, but in this case they do... An extra frame to fit the plates is included...
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Post by deafpanzer on Feb 2, 2024 12:38:26 GMT -5
That was a great save to fix!!!
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Post by lyle on Feb 2, 2024 12:41:24 GMT -5
The recovery actually has been completed, now it is going forward again... Good news, indeed.
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Post by paddy on Feb 4, 2024 11:51:27 GMT -5
The problem with the cowls is...your engine is pointing up a bit so basically you need to get the bottom of the mountings down. I think i needed to shave a little off the supercharger air intake to allow the engine to sit down at its base a bit ![](https://i.postimg.cc/BQGkKXvk/DSC6820.jpg) ![](https://i.postimg.cc/Y0hmbp8W/DSC6896.jpg)
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Post by Golikell on Feb 11, 2024 9:37:08 GMT -5
Well, that's basically what it came down to... The problem is that you won't notice this until it's too late as there are so many steps in between... Yesterday I put on the base colours. After some correction (bleeding and not enough coverage in other places) this is the result. Enough work to do (specially the markings, as I have chosen to use the 1menarmy stencils, which will be my first time in using stencils), but I will be getting there..
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Post by brandonk on Feb 11, 2024 10:36:09 GMT -5
Very nice work and great save. I'm sorry I missed this before now, but better late that never.
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Post by Steve Zuleski on Feb 11, 2024 12:01:41 GMT -5
Great pattern, looks like you and Paddy are doing a team build, HA! Fine work, Erwin!
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Post by Golikell on Feb 11, 2024 13:16:10 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I noticed some time ago that all the RAF planes of a particular type (say all Typhoons or all Spitfires with the later grey and green camouflage) has the same camouflage pattern. They must have used templates for this, which makes sense in a mass production process. Airfix faithfully reproduced the pattern on the paint instructions so I did my best to to get it right on my model.
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Post by jeaton01 on Feb 11, 2024 13:44:42 GMT -5
They definitely did have templates, set by the Ministry of Aircraft Production (MAP). I have made masks for several based on them.
![](https://i.postimg.cc/DydbzRZW/tempestcamo48.jpg)
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Post by paddy on Feb 11, 2024 17:44:04 GMT -5
The templates were rubber matts laid on the wing etc . they could be left or right handed You can see here this is the same pattern but reversed ![](https://i.postimg.cc/GhFYPmJy/M051-Spitfire-Mk-I-Pat-B-2.jpg) ![](https://i.postimg.cc/dVJC5c4S/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by kyledehart5 on Feb 11, 2024 19:53:50 GMT -5
Fascinating. I learn something here nearly every day.
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Post by Golikell on Feb 12, 2024 2:19:17 GMT -5
Very useful information indeed! It is always nice to see ones own thesis confirmed and that the work I put in it was not in vain...
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Post by Medicman71 on Mar 3, 2024 18:38:39 GMT -5
Great work on fixing the cowling!
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Post by Golikell on Mar 8, 2024 8:39:15 GMT -5
Spit hasn't come to a standstill, but progress is very slow. I am using the 1manarmy templates for all the markings, but this is quite tedious and not easy to use. Not sure if I will use them in the future... The roundels and fin flashes are on now. "Only" the letters and assorted stencils are left to done. ![](https://i.postimg.cc/LsRdsyCQ/IMG-20240308-120651.jpg)
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Post by handiabled on Mar 8, 2024 8:58:46 GMT -5
The markings look fantastic! The build I am doing currently I picked up the One Man Army mask set for as well. How are they to work with? The stencil masks look like the printed detail is super crisp.
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Post by Golikell on Mar 8, 2024 9:16:38 GMT -5
I had quite a hard time getting this done,. There was some heavy bleeding to be corrected. The roundel parts are rather difficult to position.... And they’re on the fuselage and lower wings ate through several layers of paint and into the plastic? Never had this with modelling paint! I used MRP paint for this colour…
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Post by handiabled on Mar 8, 2024 9:53:36 GMT -5
I had quite a hard time getting this done,. There was some heavy bleeding to be corrected. The roundel parts are rather difficult to position.... And they’re on the fuselage and lower wings ate through several layers of paint and into the plastic? Never had this with modelling paint! I used MRP paint for this colour… Yikes !! I can believe getting the roundels placed was a hassle. I'm still on my vast supply of MM enamels I've used them forever so I know how they behave. I've never really dealt with lacquers so the issue you experienced sounds as mystifying to me as yourself. I imagine it would have to have something to do with the thinner used to have that kind of reaction?
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Post by Golikell on Mar 8, 2024 12:01:32 GMT -5
I didn't thin the paint as it is very thin by itself.
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Post by keavdog on Mar 8, 2024 13:10:01 GMT -5
Awesome work!!! ![](https://i.redd.it/fqqijaf9jhh41.png)
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Post by Golikell on Mar 8, 2024 14:08:33 GMT -5
Thank you so much Kevin... Awesome find, that picture!
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Post by keavdog on Mar 8, 2024 15:09:49 GMT -5
Ha! From Ford VS Ferrari.
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