Airbrush recommendations needed.

[garybrantley]

Mar 21, 2024 6:50:39 GMT -5 eaglecash867 said:

Nice find! 

Ironically, on Sunday, the valve stem seal in my 38 year old Paasche H finally gave up the ghost.  I bought another Paasche H for less than 50 bones from Amazon and it arrived on Tuesday.  In the interim, I went back to trying to use my Iwata Eclipse HP-CS.  It did fine, but there was just something off about the sheen of my Semi-Matt clearcoat that I shot with it onto the cockpit parts for my Fw190 project.  It looked FAR too glossy, so I stopped and waited for the new H to arrive.  Shot the same clearcoat through the new H on the same parts, and instantly saw the difference in sheen.  It was semi-matt, just like it was supposed to be.

Incidentally, also on Sunday, I went to Paasche's web-site and ordered a new valve stem/seal assembly.  Cost me 6 bucks to replace a 38 year old part, and their service was fantastic.

That is very interesting, and it confirms my experience too.   I was using that Gaahleri AB for painting my Bf-109E-7 and was quite impressed by it.   So, when that was ready for the clear matte coat, I just used the Gaahleri.    And it was never very "matte" through that one; I couldn't understand why my usual flat coat didn't look flat, so I switched to my Paasche H for the Testors clear flat acrylic and voila, then it was flat.   The needle on that Gaahleri is just too small and it renders the flat clear glossier than when sprayed through the H.   Lesson learned! 👍 😄

[project510]

Mar 21, 2024 6:50:39 GMT -5 eaglecash867 said:

Nice find! 

Ironically, on Sunday, the valve stem seal in my 38 year old Paasche H finally gave up the ghost.  I bought another Paasche H for less than 50 bones from Amazon and it arrived on Tuesday.  In the interim, I went back to trying to use my Iwata Eclipse HP-CS.  It did fine, but there was just something off about the sheen of my Semi-Matt clearcoat that I shot with it onto the cockpit parts for my Fw190 project.  It looked FAR too glossy, so I stopped and waited for the new H to arrive.  Shot the same clearcoat through the new H on the same parts, and instantly saw the difference in sheen.  It was semi-matt, just like it was supposed to be.

Incidentally, also on Sunday, I went to Paasche's web-site and ordered a new valve stem/seal assembly.  Cost me 6 bucks to replace a 38 year old part, and their service was fantastic.

I went to their website and printed out the manual for the airbrush so I could take a look at the seals. Im convinced this thing is brand new. Im surprised how well the seals held up. If I remember correctly I was given the Paasche H while working at HobbyTown USA which would have been some 18-20 years ago. Just to be safe I ordered new ones. And like you mentioned they are very cheap.

[kyledehart5]

Mar 21, 2024 9:43:03 GMT -5 garybrantley said:

Mar 21, 2024 6:50:39 GMT -5 eaglecash867 said:

Nice find! 

Ironically, on Sunday, the valve stem seal in my 38 year old Paasche H finally gave up the ghost.  I bought another Paasche H for less than 50 bones from Amazon and it arrived on Tuesday.  In the interim, I went back to trying to use my Iwata Eclipse HP-CS.  It did fine, but there was just something off about the sheen of my Semi-Matt clearcoat that I shot with it onto the cockpit parts for my Fw190 project.  It looked FAR too glossy, so I stopped and waited for the new H to arrive.  Shot the same clearcoat through the new H on the same parts, and instantly saw the difference in sheen.  It was semi-matt, just like it was supposed to be.

Incidentally, also on Sunday, I went to Paasche's web-site and ordered a new valve stem/seal assembly.  Cost me 6 bucks to replace a 38 year old part, and their service was fantastic.

That is very interesting, and it confirms my experience too.   I was using that Gaahleri AB for painting my Bf-109E-7 and was quite impressed by it.   So, when that was ready for the clear matte coat, I just used the Gaahleri.    And it was never very "matte" through that one; I couldn't understand why my usual flat coat didn't look flat, so I switched to my Paasche H for the Testors clear flat acrylic and voila, then it was flat.   The needle on that Gaahleri is just too small and it renders the flat clear glossier than when sprayed through the H.   Lesson learned! 👍 😄

fascinating. I guess because I rarely spray flat I haven’t ran into an issue with this yet. Maybe I’ll just stick to my flat clear in cans.

[project510]

Curious what PSI you Paasche Model H users are spraying at. Mostly Tamiya Acrylics and Alclad

[project510]

Ok... So wow. This Model H sprays great! What?!

I took the Z432 out of the box since I had pulled it out anyways, and figured what the heck. It needs work, I want to see how this brush sprays.. if its terrible I need to work the body a bit more anyways..

But I mean... it put this Mr COlor primer down so smooth holy smokes. Not the best photos but trust me when I say its as smooth as I ever painted. 
Mr color 1500 thinned 1:1 at 25 psi which was supposed to be a test. But looks like a success.

[kyledehart5]

Nice! Looks like you're in business!

[eaglecash867]

Glad to see it worked so well for you!  I put down an MCW enamel clearcoat with my new one last night on my Boss 351 Mustang hood and it turned out flawlessly.  I think this was my 4th attempt at finishing that hood because every other time I tried, something went wrong with the paint or clearcoat...getting these weird little pieces of debris and random orange peel.  I'm thinking that was all caused by that old valve stem disintegrating...couldn't even get 2K to lay down right for some reason.  Looks like that's all fixed now, so I should have another 38 years before I have to worry about it again.   

Oh...and 20-25 PSI is usually what I run with mine.  Sometimes I'll bring it down to 8-10 PSI when I want to paint the inside of an intake tunnel or exhaust tube on a jet.

[chromdome35]

Mr color 1500 thinned with MLT…Picasso would have used this if he had it available

[garybrantley]

Mar 22, 2024 6:40:26 GMT -5 eaglecash867 said:

 

Oh...and 20-25 PSI is usually what I run with mine.  Sometimes I'll bring it down to 8-10 PSI when I want to paint the inside of an intake tunnel or exhaust tube on a jet.

That sounds about right for my Model H as well.   That's why I was so surprised by how low I could go with that Gaahleri.   Are you using the #1 cap/needle combination?   I just checked to see what was mounted in mine at the moment and it is the #1 set.   And that brings up a good question...where in the world are my other Paasche parts?  I know I have a #3 set somewhere in that study!  😁

[406 Silverado]

Mar 22, 2024 0:30:46 GMT -5 project510 said:

Ok... So wow. This Model H sprays great! What?!

I took the Z432 out of the box since I had pulled it out anyways, and figured what the heck. It needs work, I want to see how this brush sprays.. if its terrible I need to work the body a bit more anyways..

But I mean... it put this Mr COlor primer down so smooth holy smokes. Not the best photos but trust me when I say its as smooth as I ever painted. 
Mr color 1500 thinned 1:1 at 25 psi which was supposed to be a test. But looks like a success.

  I'm tellin' ya.....these kinds of AB's are PERFECT for area coverage and that smooth finish on that car is a great example.  A minor difference between this AB and the Badger 350 but same in principle. I'm now looking forward to the color & clear coat using that AB.

[project510]

Mar 22, 2024 8:25:30 GMT -5 garybrantley said:

Mar 22, 2024 6:40:26 GMT -5 eaglecash867 said:

 

Oh...and 20-25 PSI is usually what I run with mine.  Sometimes I'll bring it down to 8-10 PSI when I want to paint the inside of an intake tunnel or exhaust tube on a jet.

That sounds about right for my Model H as well.   That's why I was so surprised by how low I could go with that Gaahleri.   Are you using the #1 cap/needle combination?   I just checked to see what was mounted in mine at the moment and it is the #1 set.   And that brings up a good question...where in the world are my other Paasche parts?  I know I have a #3 set somewhere in that study!  😁

Mine is the has the three lines on there so according to Paasche its the #3 set .65 mm

[project510]

Posted in the What did you get thread but this is also the right place for this.




I did not expect to like the Model H as much as I do. I bought the Gaahleri not really thinking I would have the much use for it. But its here, it has a lot of good reviews and was affordable enough to not return it.
Also got the Iwata and Paasche on quick disconnect (Gaahleri came with it) so switching is a breeze. Got the repair parts needed for Iwata now I have quite an arsenal of tools here!

[kyledehart5]

Ah never hurts to have some extras. Sweet lineup!! I use my Procon boy for chrome and tiny details, my ghad-39 mostly gets the clearcoat work and my ghad 68 gets the bulk of the work. I didn’t set out to have multiple airbrushes but I do enjoy the versatility. It was also handy when I wa a painting multiple colors at once such as with my Luftwaffe bird.

[406 Silverado]

Those quick disconnects alone are worth their weight in gold. I really like being able to switch out airbrushes with just a simple disconnect/ reconnect and keep going. Good score on the airbrushes James.

[TJ]

Mar 20, 2024 23:10:52 GMT -5 project510 said:

Plot twist: Dun Dun Dunnnnnn

I was googling all of the airbrushes mentioned by yall to this point and I came to the Paasche Model H. As soon as I saw it I recognized it. Where have I seen this before? Do I have one? Where the heck would it be if I did?
Only place to check were the boxes where my kits are stashed. Not there. Decided to take a pic of my stash to not waste the effort of removing everything. Oh hey look its the Z432. I started that kit like 15 years ago. I wonder how far I got. 
Open the box...

BAM



Almost certain its never been used. I see no signs of paint. Cup looks brand new. Seal on the nozzle is black and has no signs of dried paint. Unbelievable haha.

The only thing I find in old boxes is dead spiders

[project510]

Mar 27, 2024 5:02:53 GMT -5 TJ said:

Mar 20, 2024 23:10:52 GMT -5 project510 said:

Plot twist: Dun Dun Dunnnnnn

I was googling all of the airbrushes mentioned by yall to this point and I came to the Paasche Model H. As soon as I saw it I recognized it. Where have I seen this before? Do I have one? Where the heck would it be if I did?
Only place to check were the boxes where my kits are stashed. Not there. Decided to take a pic of my stash to not waste the effort of removing everything. Oh hey look its the Z432. I started that kit like 15 years ago. I wonder how far I got. 
Open the box...

BAM

Almost certain its never been used. I see no signs of paint. Cup looks brand new. Seal on the nozzle is black and has no signs of dried paint. Unbelievable haha.

The only thing I find in old boxes is dead spiders

I find those here and there. Guess this was just my lucky day!

[keavdog]

I like your quick disconnect setup... makes way more sense that what I did. I put the disconnect on the other end of the hose 🙃. I suppose because I had the specific hoses for those brushes - no point changing it now, but your setup is definitely the way to go. Great finding your H - looks brand new. It's my all-time favorite modeling tool.