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Post by Teabone on Apr 23, 2013 17:51:24 GMT -5
Yesterday my account with Pay-Pal was locked out with a message saying I had made a request for payment of $2000 which is from outer space. I have never payed for anything in excess of $100 in a months time. Then today I received a message from them saying that in order to get my account activated again I need to let them enter my bank account which is big no no. The message appears to have come from Pay-Pal but I am finding out that as good as Pay-Pal can be never try to get a hold of them by phone its all but impossible.
My question is has anyone else had the problem with them?
Since the above occurred I spent a lot of back and forth time with Pay-Pal which is explained below.
Thanks for the responses, seems I am not alone here. Today in a series of e-mails with what I believe is the real Pay-Pal people I was told that since the time I started using their service I have spent a total of $2000 (a lot of modeling stuff) and that amount requires that my account be “verified” in one of two methods the first being to take out their Master Card. The second method is to give them some bank information and they will deposit some very small amount in my bank and then when I get my bank statement it will verify that it is OK to unlock my account.
The more I think about this the more unbelievable it is. Their sole responsibly with my funds is to transfer the money to the seller, I know they provide certain guarantees to me about the sellers business practices but I fail to see what difference it make with my account as long as I am supplying a valid credit card number to them. I think I will just go back too the credit card transaction and not order from China and maybe someone else will come up with a similar practice without the mojo stuff. From Pay-Pal I learned a new term today called Spear-phishing which must lead to fatalities I guess.
Bones
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Post by wbill76 on Apr 23, 2013 19:21:50 GMT -5
Anytime you get an email claiming to be from Paypal be very very wary if it asks for any sort of financial details or provides you with a link to 'login' to your account in response to it being hacked, locked, etc. Anytime you get something like that, you should automatically assume it's bogus and ONLY log in to your account by going directly to the Paypal site. The hackers/phishers are very sophisticated these days and can make an email look/feel just like the Paypal site very easily. Paypal does have to comply with IRS regulations about financial transfers and levels of activity for regulatory and tax purposes. When you have activity over certain thresholds, those have to be reported to the appropriate institutions. Verifying that you have a 'real' account is a safeguard against money laundering and other less than desirable activity taking place via their services. As you mention, there's always a trade-off to using the service!
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Post by Teabone on Apr 23, 2013 23:40:48 GMT -5
Wild Bill 76
I can see that you are the man I should have contacted first, after all day weastling with many e-mails back and forth and allover again I finally reached the information you had on the tips of your fingers. It seems that my $50 a month in model purchases places me under suspicion of being a dangerous drug lord laundering my $600 a year buying styrene models but what I cant figure out is why having a Pay-Pal Master Card would make me an OK guy it just sounds like a scam to me and I will not be doing business with them again. By the way it seems it may only affect USA customers.
Bones
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Post by wbill76 on Apr 24, 2013 19:06:08 GMT -5
We all know your dirty secret Bones, you're a styrene junkie! Having the Pay-pal MC means you underwent a credit check/profile so that's why they accept it as an alternative form of validation. That and of course it's a hook for you to get their card and use their services too!
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Post by Teabone on Apr 24, 2013 21:49:15 GMT -5
We all know your dirty secret Bones, you're a styrene junkie! Having the Pay-pal MC means you underwent a credit check/profile so that's why they accept it as an alternative form of validation. That and of course it's a hook for you to get their card and use their services too! Wild Bill 76
I talked with a person who has gone through the giving of bank information to Pay-Pal and then was allowed to have his account re-started. What Pay-Pal did was begin to treat his pay request like a debit card and deduct the money right from his account. I'm a little to old for being comfortable with someone having that ability with my bank account.
If you don't want to have the money deducted from your account you can WITH EACH purchase specify that the payment be made using your credit card then they charge a fee and charge it to you. For the present I am going to ride with my own credit card and not purchase from China except for Lucky Model. If that becomes a problem I will then consider getting a Pay-Pal Master Card for those off shore accounts where trust could be a factor.
And yes you have me pegged I prefer Styrene ahead of all other mediums.
Bones
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