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Post by dierk on Jun 3, 2015 5:18:14 GMT -5
Oh no! Deano has cracked open the dreaded 4BO can of worms rofl-roll  Have a read of this and this In a nutshell: it appears that when new 4BO was the approximate equivalent of FS 34257 darkening with age to FS 34095. You can check out here what those colours look like. SU's looking fine BTW. |
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Post by Deano on Jun 3, 2015 10:36:16 GMT -5
Thanks Dierk , yeah the topic seems to be a quagmire and best left alone . Many thanks for the links mate ...good reading !
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Post by Deano on Jun 3, 2015 14:35:47 GMT -5
Hi lads the decs are on , also added a few green enamel washes so in a couple of days we will be onto the weathering .  |
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Post by 4bogreen on Jun 3, 2015 15:21:25 GMT -5
A SU-85! Nice! A T-34 variant! Nice 4bo green variant deano. I have four 4bo green variants in my stash (still looking for the testors variant to complete my collection). I have done some extensive research over the years on this color. The saying it went darker over age, is a myth... The color also changed in 1947. So we have two types of 4bo green. Unfortunaly, people try to referend to color photo's of 1948 or the 1950's for WWII reference. This is not the right reference. I have the Akan colors. These are regarded as the "best" or the "one and only" 4bo green. If this is right, and you want to mix paint, its very important what brand and type of paint you use. Acrylics can have an other "look"than enamel paints. Even when mixed with exactly the same formula. Clear as mudd isn't it?
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Post by 4bogreen on Jun 3, 2015 15:30:16 GMT -5
The version in the box is a SU-85M. This due its cilinder commanders turret bulge on the right side. The "regular" SU-85 had the SU-122 layout. The inside of the doors were 4bo green, not red.
Oh no! I have turned in to a "rivet nagger"... Nice work by the way deano!
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Post by Deano on Jun 3, 2015 15:45:51 GMT -5
Thanks Remco , yeah I think Im going to have to practice on a couple more 4bo builds  . Thanks for picking up the hatches , I can change that without too much fuss. |
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Post by Leon on Jun 3, 2015 16:35:34 GMT -5
Looking good with the decs and washes Deano!  |
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Post by deafpanzer on Jun 5, 2015 22:12:49 GMT -5
Looking sharp... can't wait to see it weathered next! Yep I am back home from the beach.  |
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Post by Deano on Jun 7, 2015 5:57:55 GMT -5
Looking sharp... can't wait to see it weathered next! Yep I am back home from the beach. Thanks lads , aw Andy that means no more photo's ! lol . Well lads weathering has commenced and its getting a good dusting .  Still lots to do ! |
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Post by dierk on Jun 7, 2015 7:39:41 GMT -5
Turning into a tiny little masterpiece Thumbs Up!
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Post by wbill76 on Jun 7, 2015 16:13:07 GMT -5
Love the layering and shade differences you're getting out of this green machine Deano. |
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Post by Deano on Jun 8, 2015 16:12:34 GMT -5
Dierk , Bill , many thanks guys . Progress has been good with this but drying times are making it a long process . However we are in the final weathering stages so will be updating soonish |
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Post by Leon on Jun 8, 2015 16:27:26 GMT -5
Weathering is looking good Deano! |
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Post by Deano on Jun 10, 2015 16:21:00 GMT -5
Thanks Leon ! think Im done with dirting this one up so I will dull coat tomorrow in prep for pigments .....   and yes that is a t-34 in the background |
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Post by S e r z h--Rest In Peace on Jun 11, 2015 0:16:48 GMT -5
Deano - hi!
I admire your ability to paint the model at this scale! You might think that this is 35, 48, but not 72 ... BRAVO !!!
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Post by afvfan on Jun 11, 2015 0:22:52 GMT -5
Looking good there, Deano.
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Post by dierk on Jun 11, 2015 1:53:14 GMT -5
I agree with Serzh and Bob! Looking absolutely spiffiffingOh, oh: T-34 in the starting blocks...be careful Deano: once the soviet armour bug has bitten and you're fully infected there is no known cure rofl-roll |
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Post by wbill76 on Jun 11, 2015 13:08:23 GMT -5
Got to love watching the transformation on this one Deano. Nice!
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Post by Deano on Jun 11, 2015 17:41:34 GMT -5
I agree with Serzh and Bob! Looking absolutely spiffiffingOh, oh: T-34 in the starting blocks...be careful Deano: once the soviet armour bug has bitten and you're fully infected there is no known cure rofl-roll Many thanks guys appreciate the kind words . Dierk? that bug has already bitten Progress ...... the SU is matt coated ready for pigments , also made up a small base in need of decoration !  |
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Post by 4bogreen on Jun 12, 2015 11:37:13 GMT -5
Ah! The Soviet armor bug strikes again. Join the 4bo green side, deano...we got cookies!
looks very good deano. I am ver curious how it ends...
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Post by Deano on Jun 12, 2015 16:19:32 GMT -5
Thanks mate , Im curious how it will end up too |
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Post by deafpanzer on Jun 13, 2015 21:44:49 GMT -5
Now it is look so russian-y now! I happen to have an antidote to your bug... a Tiger! LOL
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Post by Tojo72 on Jun 15, 2015 8:39:02 GMT -5
Very nice weathering even before the pigments
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Post by Deano on Jun 16, 2015 4:52:05 GMT -5
Now it is look so russian-y now! I happen to have an antidote to your bug... a Tiger! LOL Thanks lads , Andy yer not wrong mate .....only thing is there be a T-34 in works already lol Made a start on decorating the base , also fixed the SU to the base so I can finish the weathering there .  |
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Post by TRM on Jun 16, 2015 6:05:45 GMT -5
Nice layout Deano!! Great to see the beast is getting ready to move in!! Love that park bench!! |
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Post by wbill76 on Jun 16, 2015 12:44:02 GMT -5
It seems that Deano is alternating between Panthers and Soviet gear...feast or famine!  Nice progress on the layout there Deano. |
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Post by Deano on Jun 16, 2015 18:52:55 GMT -5
Thanks T and Bill , glad you like the base arrangement and hope you like Russian armour as I have more in the pipeline . Ok weathering the base to tie it in with the SU ..............  Nearly done here ! |
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Post by wbill76 on Jun 18, 2015 14:28:18 GMT -5
Looks like everything belongs Deano. Nothing wrong with a Russian kick. |
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Post by Leon on Jun 18, 2015 16:57:38 GMT -5
Base and JP look perfect Deano! Bring it on home buddy. |
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Post by Deano on Jun 18, 2015 16:58:37 GMT -5
Thanks Bill ! safe to say this one is finished , just gotta add the figs and paint the plinth.........   Next update will be the final pics |
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. Thanks for picking up the hatches , I can change that without too much fuss.
Nice progress on the layout there Deano. 
