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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 9, 2017 15:39:43 GMT -5
I seem to be on a 4BO kick lately. I picked this up over the Christmas Break.Just started over the weekend. This is my first MiniArt kit and here are my thoughts so far: The plastic is softer than anything I've worked with before. It takes Tamiya and Gunze liquid cement just fine. Overall the kit has some really nice details. Parts are crisp, and detail is sharp for the most part. There is some flash on the inside faces of the thru hole in the road wheels that will need to be cleaned up. The part break down for the running gear is a little overly complicated. I'm fine with extra parts, it's better to have more than less, but the number of parts for the road wheel arms will create opportunities for misalignment of the road wheels. The molded welds are nice. See photo below The tracks are very well done. The sprue attachment points could have been smaller but clean up is fine. The tracks click together and are workable. But be very gentle. The tiny pins used to hold the track together want to sheer off. I've ruined enough trying to assemble one run that I will need to glue the last few tracks together on the second run as I've run out of extras. Here is my progress from over the weekend. I spent both days at the table focused on getting the running gear assembled. I'm using a couple of PanzerArt resin all steel wheels and a Dragon spider wheel for some variety. I want to get the tracks fished and see how they hold together. I have a feeling I might need to glue them together like magic tracks.
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Post by dierk on Jan 10, 2017 7:39:52 GMT -5
Excellent start! Mind your step - 4BO can be somewhat addictive
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Post by adt70hk on Jan 10, 2017 7:50:10 GMT -5
Nice start there! The tracks looks very nice indeed!
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 10, 2017 10:01:35 GMT -5
Excellent start! Mind your step - 4BO can be somewhat addictive It has been and I never thought it would be. Thank you Adt. Got the tracks finished last night. I broke enough of those tiny pins that I had to drill out a few holes and install some Master Club resin pins to keep the track "working" A few more comments for others interested in the Miniart SU series of kits. The alignment pins for the road wheel halves are ridiculously small. They are the size of in scale bolts. The wheel assemblies are engineered to spin freely. Again, this makes for some overly complex assemblies. The idler wheel mount post is too loose in the socket. I wrapped the post with .010" styrene strip and sanded down until it was a firm fit. Don't glue the idler wheel assembly until the track tension is adjusted.
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Post by chromdome35 on Jan 10, 2017 10:13:16 GMT -5
Thank you for the info on the Miniart kits.
I have a noob question...what does 4BO stand for?
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Post by jsteinman on Jan 10, 2017 10:16:30 GMT -5
4BO - it's what's for breakfast!
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Post by dierk on Jan 10, 2017 12:43:43 GMT -5
Thank you for the info on the Miniart kits. I have a noob question...what does 4BO stand for? 4BO was the classification/name given to 'Russian Green' - alternatively it could be the name of a deodorant
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Post by tobias5555 on Jan 10, 2017 13:21:29 GMT -5
I know how it is th have a 4BO kick. Keep going
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Post by chromdome35 on Jan 10, 2017 14:08:50 GMT -5
Thank you for the info on the Miniart kits. I have a noob question...what does 4BO stand for? 4BO was the classification/name given to 'Russian Green' - alternatively it could be the name of a deodorant Thanks Dierk!!!
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Post by joelsmith on Jan 10, 2017 15:42:05 GMT -5
I thought Russians used borscht for deodorant.
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Post by TRM on Jan 10, 2017 16:06:22 GMT -5
Woo Hoo...a little more Russian slap-n-tickle happening here! Thanks for the kit assessment Brian! Short, sweet and honest! Looks like you're off to a great start!
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 11, 2017 18:36:26 GMT -5
These are some small parts. At least they should be easy to replace with styrene when they go flying.
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Post by deafpanzer on Jan 11, 2017 20:17:53 GMT -5
I am rooting for you not the carpet monster!
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Post by dierk on Jan 12, 2017 6:54:39 GMT -5
Miniart strikes again! T-shirt across the lap, fine saw to cut them off, a slobbered on cocktail stick to place them, and the carpet monster should go hungry.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 12, 2017 14:39:39 GMT -5
Off to a good start. I have yet to build a Russian SU type of tank. Maybe one of these days ..... lol
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 13, 2017 16:33:36 GMT -5
Right now, the carpet monster isn't the biggest threat, it's me not paying attention to the instructions and gluing the top on before installing the periscopes.
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Post by wing_nut on Jan 13, 2017 23:11:20 GMT -5
Good start. Put a small pile of scrap plastic in a corner under an end table. Keeps the carpet monster occupied.
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 16, 2017 18:04:56 GMT -5
Good idea Wing_Nut! Starting to look like an 85 now. I added the applique armor plates to the commander's station as seen on a few Early production 85s. The white epoxy putty is making it difficult to see the welds against the white styrene. I have some Voyager PE front fenders in the spares to use and then its on to the fuel tanks and little bits.
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Post by TRM on Jan 16, 2017 18:09:06 GMT -5
Nice looking modifications! Not easy seeing the white against white when it's right in front of me...LOL Should look spot on when under some color!
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 17, 2017 10:00:58 GMT -5
That's what I hope will happen.Thanks.
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Post by jsteinman on Jan 17, 2017 11:25:05 GMT -5
Woot!
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 31, 2017 18:38:04 GMT -5
I haven't taken as many in-progress images as I should but here is the latest. Further kit notes for my build and the MiniArt kit in general. The tracks have held together surprising well. There have been a few instances when they have popped apart, but so far not so bad. They are not nearly robust as indy tracks with separate pins. The kit PE is very fine. The tool box clasps are very nice and comprise three pieces each. The PE for the tie down straps looks a little too fine for my tastes. I'm going to omit these and the ice cleats. They only supply you with enough PE for two fuel tank tie down locations which is odd. The ends need to be rolled over and form a loop but no indication marks are provided on the PE so I had to guess. I thinned the front and rear fenders with a burr in a motor tool and banged them up with needle nose pliers. I replaced all the tie down loops with formed brass rod. The kit ones are a combination of flat PE and styrene with beefy sprue points. I annealed the brass rod with a torch first so it was easier to form. I still need to add the welds for these. The kit hand holds are very fragile and have a multitude of sprue points. Too many to trim or clean up without breaking the fine rod. I trimmed out the rod and replaced with brass rod. The air exhaust screen is nicely done in two pieces. The mesh sits in a molded recess and the frame fits over top. I soldered the two together first and then had difficulty getting the parts to align in the plastic recess. The kit tow cables are molded styrene. I trimmed off the eyelets, drilled out the ends, and inserted some hand made copper wire "cable". The kit tow shackles look a little small but I used them anyway. I used some Aber soviet tool clamps for the empty shovel bracket.
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Post by adt70hk on Jan 31, 2017 18:42:46 GMT -5
Now that does look very nice!!
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Post by Leon on Jan 31, 2017 18:44:21 GMT -5
Really nice work on the PE and fenders!
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Jan 31, 2017 18:47:33 GMT -5
Thanks! Curious what a coat of primer reveals.
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Post by jsteinman on Jan 31, 2017 22:11:46 GMT -5
Superior construction! We should call you Mr. Clean!
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Post by thechaos on Feb 1, 2017 2:34:45 GMT -5
Very Cool.
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Post by dierk on Feb 1, 2017 4:51:55 GMT -5
Splendid!
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Post by Wes on Feb 1, 2017 8:33:31 GMT -5
I think i may need to aquire 1 of these Brian. Or do you reckon there is 1 better than the Mini art offering?
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Post by maschinenkrueger on Feb 1, 2017 10:11:51 GMT -5
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