kingpin141
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Post by kingpin141 on Jun 3, 2017 9:41:00 GMT -5
Mornin all. This is my new build for my father in laws regimental association. The Royal Artillery. I've also found out my grandad was RA in WW2 with the 8th army in North Africa so there's a good chance he pootled round in one of these too. I've also got both Eduard photo etch sets. The Bronco gun crew set and the Bronco open limber is on its way. I'm going to put it in a diorama in action. Here's what's arrived so far So far I've got the chassis done and put the photo etch deck plates and pedals in I've seen some models where the gun/guns are midfiring so if I can I'm going to do that too. I've got till April to finish this so I'll be taking my time.
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Post by Leon on Jun 3, 2017 10:12:25 GMT -5
Off to a good start KP! PE work looks nice.
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Post by dupes on Jun 3, 2017 11:00:43 GMT -5
Nice! For it's age, this is still a stellar kit.
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Post by panzerjager2 on Jun 3, 2017 11:11:13 GMT -5
I remember that kit..... Didn't Tamiya at one time offer it with the Quad, 25 pounder and 8th army figures? Anywho, great kit, COOL build PJ2
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moramarth
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Post by moramarth on Jun 3, 2017 12:59:31 GMT -5
The "Pheasant" crew could work, but I think you might need another chap as a munitions handler. As you probably know "Pheasant" was the name for an early 17pdr Anti-tank gun tube on a modified 25pdr carriage. The 17pdr round was "fixed", i.e. the projectile and cartridge came as a unit; while with the 25pdr the round was separate and loaded first, then you put the required number of propellant bags into the brass case, loaded that and (IIRC) elevated the gun so the shell dropped back onto the cartridge. The extra operations needed extra sets of hands. I know a chap who crewed a 25pdr when in the cadets, I'll try and get some details out of him.
Regards,
M
Yep, 6 men. Just Wiki'ed it: The gun detachment comprised the following: No 1 – detachment commander (a sergeant) No 2 – operated the breech and rammed the shell, No 3 – layer, No 4 – loader, No 5 – ammunition number (handler), No 6 – ammunition, normally the 'coverer' i.e. second in command and responsible for ammunition preparation and operating the fuse indicator. There was provision for a reduced crew of four. Edit: I was wrong about the V.C. bit, the chap who many people think should have had a V.C. was Sergeant Talaiasi Labalaba, a Fijian serving with the SAS and killed at Mirbat, 19th July 1972. The gun he manned is now on display at "Firepower", the Museum of the Royal Artillery, Woolwich. The other fellow I was thinking of won the M.C. at Tobruk; Captain (then Lieutenant) Leslie Brian Farmiloe, Royal Regiment of Artillery, was the sole surviving occupant of a gun pit who fought on until severely wounded by fragments from ammunition boxes exploding due to enemy fire. The ammo boxes had asbestos in their construction, so when Farmiloe died on Christmas Day 1994 (aged 79) from a malignant mesothelioma the coroner recorded the unusual verdict of "death from disease resulting from enemy action (while) on active service".
Cheers,
M
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kingpin141
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Mar 24, 2013 14:32:50 GMT -5
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Post by kingpin141 on Jun 3, 2017 13:10:11 GMT -5
The "Pheasant" crew could work, but I think you might need another chap as a munitions handler. As you probably know "Pheasant" was the name for an early 17pdr Anti-tank gun tube on a modified 25pdr carriage. The 17pdr round was "fixed", i.e. the projectile and cartridge came as a unit; while with the 25pdr the round was separate and loaded first, then you put the required number of propellant bags into the brass case, loaded that and (IIRC) elevated the gun so the shell dropped back onto the cartridge. The extra operations needed extra sets of hands. I know a chap who crewed a 25pdr when in the cadets, I'll try and get some details out of him. Regards, M Thanks. Any extra info is gratefully accepted as I know next to nothing about the real thing.
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