Post by Smudge on Feb 13, 2014 10:12:42 GMT -5
Panzerspahwagen Marmon-Herrington (e).
Manufacturer: IBG Models
Review type: In Box
Scale: 1/35
Model Number: 35024
Reviewer: Smudge
This review is of IBG’s new kit#35024, the Panzerspahwagen Marmon-Herrington (e). Readers will benefit from checking out Mike Shackleton’s great review of the Marmon-Herrington Mk.I South African Reconnaissance Vehicle (kit# 35021) here modelerssocialclub.proboards.com/thread/7237/models-marmon-herrington-reconnaissance-vehicle
Mike covers the background of the Marmon Herrington very well but a bit more information on the MkII upon which this kit is based would be useful so…
Background
The MkII was basically a four wheel drive version of the Mk.I South African Reconnaissance Vehicle. Apart from the 4WD the noticeable differences included different front mudguards, sand channels stored over the rear wheels, and an adapted turret to take different weapon options. Two models were produced the Middle East version and the Mobile Field Force version. The ME version was the one issued to British/Commonwealth Forces in North Africa and the Middle East (and indeed other theatres) and was armed with a .55’’ Boys AT rifle, and two .303 Brens…supposedly but the second appears to have been rarely carried. Later a .303 Vickers or Vickers K for air defence was fitted in theatre. The MFF was used within South Africa and was armed much like the kit Mike describes (with the MkI turret and side mounted Vickers)…but it did have the mudguards and sand channels like the ME version, a sort of MkI SA/MkII ME hybrid (Note IBG plan to release the MkII ME and MFF versions fairly soon).
Many MKII ME types were stripped of their turrets and received larger calibre weapons like the British 2pdr, captured Italian 20mm or 47mm Breda cannons or German Pak36 AT guns, in order to provide fire support. Some turretless MkII’s were used as Royal Artillery armoured OP vehicles or as REME Light Aid Detachment vehicles; other users included RE Field Company engineers for recovery/demolition on the battlefield. 400 MkII’s including 338 ME’s were produced for the British, and were also issued to South African, Polish and New Zealand troops that I know of. Turretless versions specifically were seen with these forces and photo evidence show these in North Africa, the Middle East (even as far as Iraq), and Madagascar during the landings of 1942.
Just one word of caution to the modeller wanting to up-gun their turretless Marmon Herrington; from studying photos it looks like some also had the hull roof cut away as well as having the turret removed, right back to the rear doors. These must have used some sort of pedestal mount fixed to the hull floor. However some definitely had the guns mounts simply welded to the front of the redundant turret ring, see the pages below. I guess these field modifications didn’t always follow the same pattern.
Picture by permission of Model Centrum Progres
Some MkII’s were captured and used by The Italians and Germans and used for reconnaissance …the latter renaming them the Panzerspahwagen Marmon-Herrington (e) and it’s this one IBG have produced. It isn’t known if the Germans made use of captured turretless versions or removed the turrets themselves. There is a pretty famous picture of Rommel using one of these vehicles here beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/armor_car/Marmon_herrington/Marmon-01.htm.
The kit
The kit is packaged just like the MkI in a large top opening box (great for keeping the parts together during construction) and shows a turretless German Beute MkII somewhere in the desert, maybe North Africa. Worthy of note are the box top vehicle markings; a simple German national cross or ‘Balkenkreuz’ and the DAK (German Afrika Korps) badge of a palm tree minus the ‘Hakenkreuz’ or Swastika. I guess this is because the German and Austrian postwar criminal code makes the public showing of this illegal. More about this later.
The kit contains, if I counted them correctly, 214 parts on seven light grey and clear sprues, five tyres, a fret of photo etched brass and a piece of wire. Also a small sheet of decals and the instructions. Like Mike’s MkI my rear door parts were warped a bit. Flash and seam lines are minimal and nothing a sharp blade can’t cure.
The contents are:
Sprue A: the hull floor, roof, bonnet top plates, rear plate, pioneer tools and boxes, roof frame.
Sprue B: armoured radiator doors, engine parts, steering wheel and dashboard, windscreen parts, silencer, brake and transmission parts. Note; some parts relating to the MkI are redundant on this sprue.
Sprue C (x2): wheels, wheel carriers, hooks, seat cushions, battery.
Sprue Ca: wheel, seat backs, radio (wireless set No19).
Sprue Ce: suspension and axle detail parts.
Sprue D: clear parts – headlight lenses and windscreen glazing.
Sprue F: body sides, suspension springs, front mudguards, chassis frame and parts, 4WD transfer box and driveshafts. Note the difference in the hull sides compared to Mike’s MkI and well portrayed weld lines. This represents a later hull with the left side Vickers MG position covered with welded on steel plate.
Tyres (x 5); while some vehicles are seen with cross country tyres these are good replica’s of the ones often fitted which appear to be Firestone 10.50 x 20’s. These are very well moulded although they lack manufacturer’s data and have a slight ridge across the tread that will need careful removal.
PE brass fret: radio guards, various handles, hooks and straps, radio headphone parts.
Brass wire: to be cut to 6mm lengths and used to detail the interior hull rear.
Decals: for one option but of two kinds; German national crosses and two different DAK badges…with Swastika and/or a modified ‘Swastika’ to satisfy German laws. This represents a Panzerspahwagen Marmon-Herrington (e) from an unidentified unit of the Afrika Korps, North Africa, summer 1941. Note, decals for the dashboard instruments aren’t unfortunately provided.
General observations:
1. Parts are well moulded, ejection pin marks minimal and sensibly placed. Many sprue attachment points although having built IBG’s Bedford I have to say these are much smaller so clean up will be much easier; my main fault with the Bedford kit.
2. Highly detailed engine, just requiring a little wiring to finish it off, should the modeller wish. Some may consign this to spares if the bonnet is built buttoned up; if it can’t be seen why build it (great for diorama spares though?).
3. Highly detailed WS19 radio set, with PE guards, headphone and handset. Just needs wiring to finish it off. Excellent for a British/Commonwealth version but I do have to ask the question ‘would a captured version like this have been refitted with a German radio set’? I honestly don’t know, so let me know if you do.
4. Chassis frame is made from many parts; the nine parts for the frame will need to be perfectly aligned. The instructions at this point need to be carefully studied the exploded diagram is not too clear IMHO. Making sure the ‘flatpacked’ hull sides are also perfectly aligned is paramount.
5. For a simple vehicle it is well kitted out; the more fastidious modellers may want to ad extra detail like internal wiring, storage frames etc. It is fairly well appointed but would benefit from internal stowage none of which is provided (Bronco’s new British accessories set would be great for this along with Value Gear tarps etc).
6. There are several options including open and closed doors (sides and rear), opened or closed armoured radiator doors, folding seats, open or shut armoured windscreen plate (see instructions notes below about this). Unfortunately, and I can’t imagine why, the sides doors (but not rear) are moulded without interior detail which is a shame they’re crying out to be left open to show off the nice interior. On a positive note this is a simple fix, requiring just the handle and locking plate reproducing.
The kit has some pretty nice touches…
Instructions:
This is IBG’s usual offering and uses CAD images to illustrate the build. There are 45 build stages, some easy, and like the MkI the first 14 stages are simple, getting the smaller detail parts out of the way. You could of course do these as and when required. Over all the stages look clear enough; although personally I prefer clear line drawings myself I can’t see any obvious traps or pitfalls apart from one…at stage 40 the handle is fitted to the interior front windows for the armoured windscreen plate (parts B32 and B40 for the open plate). Be aware if building the armoured windscreen closed you will need to substitute part B32 for B33.
Be aware of the options like the radiator doors which can be portrayed open require different parts to the closed option (the stays B19 and B20 OR B21 and B22 respectively). Be carful with some exploded diagrams I.E. the fitting of the central struts etc to the chassis frame sides (parts F36 and 37) are none too clear.
Two painting guide provides recommendations for Vallejo Model Air and Vallejo Model Color.
The rear of the instructions promote’s William Marshall’s “Marmon Herrington, a History of the South African Reconnaissance Car” book from Model Centrum Progres ; 176 pages with 229 black and white photos and 141 colour walk around photos. It also has 20 colour plates and 8 pages of 1/35 scale drawings and a great deal of development, build and operational history. You see more here www.ibgmodels.com/S1.htm. As well as covering all the M-H variants to a high degree the book gives a great insight into the units and countries that operated the Marmon Herrington, the theatres they fought in, general camouflage schemes and markings etc. I would like to thank Model Centrum Progres for letting me reproduce some pages from the book here and two more colour plates for the turretless MkII can be seen on IBG’s website above.
Pictures by permission of Model Centrum Progres
Conclusion:
This is the first styrene model of the Marmon Herrington MkII or otherwise I know of. It’s a simple but well engineered and produced kit which fills a hole in the market and will appeal to British and Commonwealth modellers, but also to German ones.
I think care will be needed following the instructions, although to be fair these show an improvement over the Bedford kit which was released just before this one. Care will also be needed to make sure the parts like the chassis and hull sides are true, due the nature of the assembly. Fit I can’t comment on having not built it but referring back to the Bedford I found the arts on that kit fitted very well.
I would have preferred at least one other colour/marking option, maybe the colourful RA version shown in William Marshall’s book; even if this meant generic markings with dubious census numbers. Instrument decals are I think a must have.
Like Mike says in his fine review and like the Bedford I’m building there’s enough here I think to keep the novice, intermediate and advanced modeller happy. Missing bits can be made fairly simply from sheets styrene and rod, wire etc by those wanting a bit more detail, and I’m sure the AM guys will provide upgrades at some point.
Highly recommended
References:
“Marmon Herrington, a History of the South African Reconnaissance Car”, William Marshall, Model Centrum Progres, 2013
Beutepanzer website beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/armor_car/Marmon_herrington/Marmon-01.htm. This great website contains five pages of captured ‘trophy’ Marmon Herrington’s including several turretless MkII’s; check out page one to see the vehicle used by Rommel.
The review sample was provided by IBG Models
Manufacturer: IBG Models
Review type: In Box
Scale: 1/35
Model Number: 35024
Reviewer: Smudge
This review is of IBG’s new kit#35024, the Panzerspahwagen Marmon-Herrington (e). Readers will benefit from checking out Mike Shackleton’s great review of the Marmon-Herrington Mk.I South African Reconnaissance Vehicle (kit# 35021) here modelerssocialclub.proboards.com/thread/7237/models-marmon-herrington-reconnaissance-vehicle
Mike covers the background of the Marmon Herrington very well but a bit more information on the MkII upon which this kit is based would be useful so…
Background
The MkII was basically a four wheel drive version of the Mk.I South African Reconnaissance Vehicle. Apart from the 4WD the noticeable differences included different front mudguards, sand channels stored over the rear wheels, and an adapted turret to take different weapon options. Two models were produced the Middle East version and the Mobile Field Force version. The ME version was the one issued to British/Commonwealth Forces in North Africa and the Middle East (and indeed other theatres) and was armed with a .55’’ Boys AT rifle, and two .303 Brens…supposedly but the second appears to have been rarely carried. Later a .303 Vickers or Vickers K for air defence was fitted in theatre. The MFF was used within South Africa and was armed much like the kit Mike describes (with the MkI turret and side mounted Vickers)…but it did have the mudguards and sand channels like the ME version, a sort of MkI SA/MkII ME hybrid (Note IBG plan to release the MkII ME and MFF versions fairly soon).
Many MKII ME types were stripped of their turrets and received larger calibre weapons like the British 2pdr, captured Italian 20mm or 47mm Breda cannons or German Pak36 AT guns, in order to provide fire support. Some turretless MkII’s were used as Royal Artillery armoured OP vehicles or as REME Light Aid Detachment vehicles; other users included RE Field Company engineers for recovery/demolition on the battlefield. 400 MkII’s including 338 ME’s were produced for the British, and were also issued to South African, Polish and New Zealand troops that I know of. Turretless versions specifically were seen with these forces and photo evidence show these in North Africa, the Middle East (even as far as Iraq), and Madagascar during the landings of 1942.
Just one word of caution to the modeller wanting to up-gun their turretless Marmon Herrington; from studying photos it looks like some also had the hull roof cut away as well as having the turret removed, right back to the rear doors. These must have used some sort of pedestal mount fixed to the hull floor. However some definitely had the guns mounts simply welded to the front of the redundant turret ring, see the pages below. I guess these field modifications didn’t always follow the same pattern.
Picture by permission of Model Centrum Progres
Some MkII’s were captured and used by The Italians and Germans and used for reconnaissance …the latter renaming them the Panzerspahwagen Marmon-Herrington (e) and it’s this one IBG have produced. It isn’t known if the Germans made use of captured turretless versions or removed the turrets themselves. There is a pretty famous picture of Rommel using one of these vehicles here beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/armor_car/Marmon_herrington/Marmon-01.htm.
The kit
The kit is packaged just like the MkI in a large top opening box (great for keeping the parts together during construction) and shows a turretless German Beute MkII somewhere in the desert, maybe North Africa. Worthy of note are the box top vehicle markings; a simple German national cross or ‘Balkenkreuz’ and the DAK (German Afrika Korps) badge of a palm tree minus the ‘Hakenkreuz’ or Swastika. I guess this is because the German and Austrian postwar criminal code makes the public showing of this illegal. More about this later.
The kit contains, if I counted them correctly, 214 parts on seven light grey and clear sprues, five tyres, a fret of photo etched brass and a piece of wire. Also a small sheet of decals and the instructions. Like Mike’s MkI my rear door parts were warped a bit. Flash and seam lines are minimal and nothing a sharp blade can’t cure.
The contents are:
Sprue A: the hull floor, roof, bonnet top plates, rear plate, pioneer tools and boxes, roof frame.
Sprue B: armoured radiator doors, engine parts, steering wheel and dashboard, windscreen parts, silencer, brake and transmission parts. Note; some parts relating to the MkI are redundant on this sprue.
Sprue C (x2): wheels, wheel carriers, hooks, seat cushions, battery.
Sprue Ca: wheel, seat backs, radio (wireless set No19).
Sprue Ce: suspension and axle detail parts.
Sprue D: clear parts – headlight lenses and windscreen glazing.
Sprue F: body sides, suspension springs, front mudguards, chassis frame and parts, 4WD transfer box and driveshafts. Note the difference in the hull sides compared to Mike’s MkI and well portrayed weld lines. This represents a later hull with the left side Vickers MG position covered with welded on steel plate.
Tyres (x 5); while some vehicles are seen with cross country tyres these are good replica’s of the ones often fitted which appear to be Firestone 10.50 x 20’s. These are very well moulded although they lack manufacturer’s data and have a slight ridge across the tread that will need careful removal.
PE brass fret: radio guards, various handles, hooks and straps, radio headphone parts.
Brass wire: to be cut to 6mm lengths and used to detail the interior hull rear.
Decals: for one option but of two kinds; German national crosses and two different DAK badges…with Swastika and/or a modified ‘Swastika’ to satisfy German laws. This represents a Panzerspahwagen Marmon-Herrington (e) from an unidentified unit of the Afrika Korps, North Africa, summer 1941. Note, decals for the dashboard instruments aren’t unfortunately provided.
General observations:
1. Parts are well moulded, ejection pin marks minimal and sensibly placed. Many sprue attachment points although having built IBG’s Bedford I have to say these are much smaller so clean up will be much easier; my main fault with the Bedford kit.
2. Highly detailed engine, just requiring a little wiring to finish it off, should the modeller wish. Some may consign this to spares if the bonnet is built buttoned up; if it can’t be seen why build it (great for diorama spares though?).
3. Highly detailed WS19 radio set, with PE guards, headphone and handset. Just needs wiring to finish it off. Excellent for a British/Commonwealth version but I do have to ask the question ‘would a captured version like this have been refitted with a German radio set’? I honestly don’t know, so let me know if you do.
4. Chassis frame is made from many parts; the nine parts for the frame will need to be perfectly aligned. The instructions at this point need to be carefully studied the exploded diagram is not too clear IMHO. Making sure the ‘flatpacked’ hull sides are also perfectly aligned is paramount.
5. For a simple vehicle it is well kitted out; the more fastidious modellers may want to ad extra detail like internal wiring, storage frames etc. It is fairly well appointed but would benefit from internal stowage none of which is provided (Bronco’s new British accessories set would be great for this along with Value Gear tarps etc).
6. There are several options including open and closed doors (sides and rear), opened or closed armoured radiator doors, folding seats, open or shut armoured windscreen plate (see instructions notes below about this). Unfortunately, and I can’t imagine why, the sides doors (but not rear) are moulded without interior detail which is a shame they’re crying out to be left open to show off the nice interior. On a positive note this is a simple fix, requiring just the handle and locking plate reproducing.
The kit has some pretty nice touches…
Instructions:
This is IBG’s usual offering and uses CAD images to illustrate the build. There are 45 build stages, some easy, and like the MkI the first 14 stages are simple, getting the smaller detail parts out of the way. You could of course do these as and when required. Over all the stages look clear enough; although personally I prefer clear line drawings myself I can’t see any obvious traps or pitfalls apart from one…at stage 40 the handle is fitted to the interior front windows for the armoured windscreen plate (parts B32 and B40 for the open plate). Be aware if building the armoured windscreen closed you will need to substitute part B32 for B33.
Be aware of the options like the radiator doors which can be portrayed open require different parts to the closed option (the stays B19 and B20 OR B21 and B22 respectively). Be carful with some exploded diagrams I.E. the fitting of the central struts etc to the chassis frame sides (parts F36 and 37) are none too clear.
Two painting guide provides recommendations for Vallejo Model Air and Vallejo Model Color.
The rear of the instructions promote’s William Marshall’s “Marmon Herrington, a History of the South African Reconnaissance Car” book from Model Centrum Progres ; 176 pages with 229 black and white photos and 141 colour walk around photos. It also has 20 colour plates and 8 pages of 1/35 scale drawings and a great deal of development, build and operational history. You see more here www.ibgmodels.com/S1.htm. As well as covering all the M-H variants to a high degree the book gives a great insight into the units and countries that operated the Marmon Herrington, the theatres they fought in, general camouflage schemes and markings etc. I would like to thank Model Centrum Progres for letting me reproduce some pages from the book here and two more colour plates for the turretless MkII can be seen on IBG’s website above.
Pictures by permission of Model Centrum Progres
Conclusion:
This is the first styrene model of the Marmon Herrington MkII or otherwise I know of. It’s a simple but well engineered and produced kit which fills a hole in the market and will appeal to British and Commonwealth modellers, but also to German ones.
I think care will be needed following the instructions, although to be fair these show an improvement over the Bedford kit which was released just before this one. Care will also be needed to make sure the parts like the chassis and hull sides are true, due the nature of the assembly. Fit I can’t comment on having not built it but referring back to the Bedford I found the arts on that kit fitted very well.
I would have preferred at least one other colour/marking option, maybe the colourful RA version shown in William Marshall’s book; even if this meant generic markings with dubious census numbers. Instrument decals are I think a must have.
Like Mike says in his fine review and like the Bedford I’m building there’s enough here I think to keep the novice, intermediate and advanced modeller happy. Missing bits can be made fairly simply from sheets styrene and rod, wire etc by those wanting a bit more detail, and I’m sure the AM guys will provide upgrades at some point.
Highly recommended
References:
“Marmon Herrington, a History of the South African Reconnaissance Car”, William Marshall, Model Centrum Progres, 2013
Beutepanzer website beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/armor_car/Marmon_herrington/Marmon-01.htm. This great website contains five pages of captured ‘trophy’ Marmon Herrington’s including several turretless MkII’s; check out page one to see the vehicle used by Rommel.
The review sample was provided by IBG Models
. They are very good though. Shame about the doors I reckon these might have been removed from the moulds and left to cool unsupported in that area of the sprue? It could just be a batch who knows.
