thechaos
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Post by thechaos on Nov 29, 2015 9:18:39 GMT -5
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Post by wouter on Nov 29, 2015 10:58:52 GMT -5
Nice rendition of a beautiful bird. Can't go wrong with a Schwalbe  question though: why did you photoshop the Swastika away? It is what it is, and that's what they carried Cheers |
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Post by TRM on Nov 29, 2015 15:37:24 GMT -5
Looks like a fine job there my friend!! Chalk another pretty bird up for the 2015 build season! Wouts, guessing he shares the pics on some other forums or pages that denounce the use of the symbol for any reason. Unfortunately some people can't see the difference between depiction and glorification....all black or all white! |
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Post by wbill76 on Nov 29, 2015 19:38:46 GMT -5
Nice work on the 262! Always amazes me that they took something like this and insisted it be able to carry bombs...  |
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Post by tigrazor on Nov 29, 2015 20:56:09 GMT -5
The Me was able to carry bombs indeed - but thats totally an infra dig (ask Mr. Galland, for example). Never seen a Ferrari with a camping wagon, do you?  Nice build Chris! |
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thechaos
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Post by thechaos on Nov 30, 2015 2:29:40 GMT -5
Thanks Guys and yes
the Swastika is depiction and glorification.. in Germany.
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Post by Leon on Nov 30, 2015 5:13:41 GMT -5
Nice finish on the ME Chris! |
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Post by dierk on Nov 30, 2015 6:55:19 GMT -5
Looking good Chris!
Yes, the Germans are a bit funny (but not ina ha, ha sort of way) about third reich symbols. Displaying swastikas, SS insignia, Wolfsangel, the swastika in the Afrika Korps palm, etc. - all banned by law. Even the kill marks using swastikas on, say a Spitfire: VERBOTEN! I'm actually surprised Chris' kit included the tail markings - they used to cut them out of the decal sheets and use black marker pen on the boxes to censor them. If you were to upload pictures showing any of the above to a German photo-sharing website (unless they are historical ones), they'd more than likely get removed, you're account might get closed and if your address is known you might even get a visit from the cops. In case you're wondering how they would find out where you live, here's a laugh for you: if you set up an email address from a computer with a German IP you've got to enter a postal address!
Ve haff vays, indeed...
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thechaos
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Post by thechaos on Nov 30, 2015 15:12:12 GMT -5
@direk:
Thanks and yes it is very creasy here.
and you can never be too careful, so rather masked.
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Post by wouter on Nov 30, 2015 15:15:41 GMT -5
Looking good Chris! Yes, the Germans are a bit funny (but not ina ha, ha sort of way) about third reich symbols. Displaying swastikas, SS insignia, Wolfsangel, the swastika in the Afrika Korps palm, etc. - all banned by law. Even the kill marks using swastikas on, say a Spitfire: VERBOTEN! I'm actually surprised Chris' kit included the tail markings - they used to cut them out of the decal sheets and use black marker pen on the boxes to censor them. If you were to upload pictures showing any of the above to a German photo-sharing website (unless they are historical ones), they'd more than likely get removed, you're account might get closed and if your address is known you might even get a visit from the cops. In case you're wondering how they would find out where you live, here's a laugh for you: if you set up an email address from a computer with a German IP you've got to enter a postal address! Ve haff vays, indeed... Cheers it's even worse, even the death heads of the Wehrmacht tank crew (so got nothing to do with SS or Waffen-SS) aren't allowed...bit silly...I can understand that it's a trauma and initially those were banned, but we are more than 70 years after...I pretty much order all my modelling stuff in Germany, except for figure insignia and all. Cheers |
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Post by tigrazor on Nov 30, 2015 18:21:05 GMT -5
Its a never ending story... In other countries you even get minus points in a competition if the correct historical Luftwaffe tail insignias - you know which ones - arent there. And many many of those countries had to suffer a lot during WW2 and after (imho theres no one not suffering during a war - no matter which one). Other countries say "yep, thats historically correct for this subject, and youre not a narrow minded person with too much national thinking!" Our law here is something between funny and ridiculous at the same time. Wouter mentioned it: its 70 years after!!! If I understand it right its the common sense (or even law >> please correct me if Im wrong), that model kits are categorized as TOYS here. If a German cant be bureaucratic, he makes something wrong... |
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Post by wouter on Dec 1, 2015 4:14:32 GMT -5
Put it this way: Stalin and even Mao had more deaths on their heads than Hitler had , yet the hammer and sickle emblems are still allowed to be used and even printed on t-shirts and what nought. Not trying to minimalize what was done under the swastika banner, but there seems to be a hypocrit stance toward other detesteable regimes.
Cheers
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Post by dierk on Dec 2, 2015 5:25:50 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more - but you're making a fundamental mistake: you're using common sense and logic Seems to me that Germany in particular loves rules, and rules don't have to make sense, they just have to be kept and enforced. |
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Post by wouter on Dec 2, 2015 9:39:52 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more - but you're making a fundamental mistake: you're using common sense and logic Seems to me that Germany in particular loves rules, and rules don't have to make sense, they just have to be kept and enforced. Oh but I don't think it's just only Germany which likes those  I do agree, and that especially the case in the Third Reich, that they did and do like some bureaucracy and rules Cheers |
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