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Post by tiking on Apr 27, 2018 18:42:37 GMT -5
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Post by Leon on Apr 27, 2018 19:03:40 GMT -5
WOW....That looks totally awesome Tiking!  I think you captured the burned out effect perfectly.  |
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Post by tiking on Apr 27, 2018 21:25:48 GMT -5
WOW....That looks totally awesome Tiking! I think you captured the burned out effect perfectly. Thank you Leon. |
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Post by tobias5555 on Apr 28, 2018 0:47:08 GMT -5
Very cool work. Looks like a real picture
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Post by Tobi on Apr 28, 2018 2:18:38 GMT -5
You achieved some pretty cool effects there, I especially like the grease on the 5th wheel!
So please don't get me wrong, now is the truck designer (and former MAN employee) speaking:
The fuel tank would not have such a prominent weld seam facing to the visible side. If at all, it would be on the opposite where the tank supports are. Also it is more common that the tank sits parallel to the driving direction, not angled. There is a magnitude of angled spacers available at every manufacturer to cope with the side rails deviation. The shape of the tank looks like it is made from steel not aluminum, so it's usually black instead of silver. Don't drill the cable trees (it's a nightmare for repair) and don't put them loosely into the chassis. They are fixed snugly into the recesses of the side members with cable ties and clamps and only single lines peak out where the various control units and valves sit. I'm not sure if the front flap of this type was really already made from plastic, but I doubt it as the truck seems too old for that. As such it would not completely disappear because of a fire (an over-motivated judge at a contest could criticize that). Though I don't say a burnt truck doesn't look the way like you depicted (I know how crazy these things can turn out depending on wind and such, just like you described with the front wheel), I found by own experience that there are often remnants of plastic parts to be seen which where only melted away or deformed. This would also make for a nice effect next time. Last but not least I'm missing something on the chassis front. There has to be some sort of tow hook for recovery purpose (usually hidden behind the bumper under the license plate), the front now looks somewhat naked without it. Does the model have a steering gearbox and linkage on the frame and the cab (hard to tell)?
Sorry if I sound rude, not my intention.
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Post by moramarth on Apr 28, 2018 6:37:51 GMT -5
Very Impressive! I'm used to seeing burnt out military vehicles and civilian rust buckets, but I can't recall off-hand burnt-out civilian stuff...
Regards,
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Post by tiking on Apr 28, 2018 11:20:30 GMT -5
Very Impressive! I'm used to seeing burnt out military vehicles and civilian rust buckets, but I can't recall off-hand burnt-out civilian stuff... Regards, M Thank you M. |
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Post by tiking on Apr 28, 2018 15:47:04 GMT -5
You achieved some pretty cool effects there, I especially like the grease on the 5th wheel! So please don't get me wrong, now is the truck designer (and former MAN employee) speaking: The fuel tank would not have such a prominent weld seam facing to the visible side. If at all, it would be on the opposite where the tank supports are. Also it is more common that the tank sits parallel to the driving direction, not angled. There is a magnitude of angled spacers available at every manufacturer to cope with the side rails deviation. The shape of the tank looks like it is made from steel not aluminum, so it's usually black instead of silver. Don't drill the cable trees (it's a nightmare for repair) and don't put them loosely into the chassis. They are fixed snugly into the recesses of the side members with cable ties and clamps and only single lines peak out where the various control units and valves sit. I'm not sure if the front flap of this type was really already made from plastic, but I doubt it as the truck seems too old for that. As such it would not completely disappear because of a fire (an over-motivated judge at a contest could criticize that). Though I don't say a burnt truck doesn't look the way like you depicted (I know how crazy these things can turn out depending on wind and such, just like you described with the front wheel), I found by own experience that there are often remnants of plastic parts to be seen which where only melted away or deformed. This would also make for a nice effect next time. Last but not least I'm missing something on the chassis front. There has to be some sort of tow hook for recovery purpose (usually hidden behind the bumper under the license plate), the front now looks somewhat naked without it. Does the model have a steering gearbox and linkage on the frame and the cab (hard to tell)? Sorry if I sound rude, not my intention. OK. Now how to respond and what to say...mmmmm First of all, I am no truck driver or designer. The kit came with the instructions on how to put the parts together and that's what I did. I too thought, that the fuel tank was a little weird and wondered why it was at an angle. But then I thought, maybe it was a design thing. I just built the kit as instructed. Secondly, I tried and gathered as much info on burnt out trucks as possible. The pics I collected showed both debri as you described and some did not. My assessment were from various refernce photos that showed different aspects. Not all were entirely the same. I pulled info from all photos and not just one. So, it is a pretty much a mix/match situation. Thirdly, the parts you described were not all shown in various reference photos. Some were probably removed or destroyed or whatever. I just tried and mimic the best to my ability what I saw in the different photos I collected. I have had many folks ask me why did the right tyre stay whole? Well, in my pic, the tyre is flat. It is difficult to tell with all the ashes surrounding it. And yes, my reference photo had a similar attribute. I know most would wonder why the right tyre did not get burnt to a crisp like the left tyre... In most cases depending on the degree of the fire and where it was most intense. I have seen photos with similar attributes.Here is a photo of a burnt truck with the tyre still intact:  At the end of the day, I just try and do the best I can with what I have for references. Thank you for your time. |
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Post by tiking on Apr 28, 2018 15:47:35 GMT -5
Very Impressive! I'm used to seeing burnt out military vehicles and civilian rust buckets, but I can't recall off-hand burnt-out civilian stuff... Regards, M Thank you M. kind regards M. |
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Post by mustang1989 on Apr 28, 2018 17:15:14 GMT -5
I'm at a true loss for words on how to describe what I see.
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Post by tiking on Apr 28, 2018 17:19:34 GMT -5
I'm at a true loss for words on how to describe what I see. I take it that's a good thing?  |
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Post by mustang1989 on Apr 28, 2018 17:24:07 GMT -5
I'm at a true loss for words on how to describe what I see. I take it that's a good thing? That would be an affirmative my styrene brother.  |
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Post by tiking on Apr 28, 2018 17:35:43 GMT -5
Thanks man.
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Post by Prop Duster on May 5, 2018 1:33:40 GMT -5
Incredible bit of work.  Very good use of many techniques. Oh, and WOW! too. |
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Post by tiking on May 5, 2018 10:00:29 GMT -5
Incredible bit of work. Very good use of many techniques. Oh, and WOW! too. kind regards Steve. Glad you like the results. |
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Post by sabre on May 6, 2018 17:43:35 GMT -5
Wowza!!! Simply brilliant, very well done tiking, so realistic.
Rob(Scratchmod) better watch out a new master of the burnt out wreck is in the making.
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Post by tiking on May 7, 2018 2:35:01 GMT -5
Wowza!!! Simply brilliant, very well done tiking, so realistic. Rob(Scratchmod) better watch out a new master of the burnt out wreck is in the making. Kind of you to think so highly of me that way. But Rob will always be one step ahead of me. His work has always been an inspiration to me and many others. So thanks to him and many others like him, I got this far. |
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I think you captured the burned out effect perfectly. 
