USS LANGLEY Deck

[41chevy]

I originally bought the Langley to convert back to a collier, but my better half surprised me with a PE and wood deck sooooo off we went.

Here is as it stands today. Needs some light weathering as it's built.

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The Port side frames for the flight deck is partially assembled, aligned and soldered. The Starboard side in no yet aligned or soldered, hence the "bumps"

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[jeaton01]

Cool!

[stikpusher]

Oh very nice! The covered wagon!

[deafpanzer]

Excellent PE work on the ship!

[keavdog]

That's some serious PE work! Should be quite a looker

[Joe Rix]

Outstanding! I am in awe of your PE work. Some very intricate work involved there that you are doing a magnificent job on. Overall it's looking great.

[adt70hk]

Very cool!!

[Leon]

That is some really nice PE work!

[41chevy]

Thank you for the positives on the PE work. I do enjoy the metal work, probably from building all the old Hubley kits as a kid.

[Medicman71]

Very nice! I love using PE.

[tcoat]

Which kit is this? Very cool and different.

[41chevy]

Dusted is some color and I had the flight deck done for a while with the wood decking on, so I mounted it with Blu Tac to see how it sit.

I also started to assemble the Recon, Bomber and fighter aircraft. Next on them is the outer struts. Not looking forward to those! I only going to use about 1/2 dozen and a few under the deck is the repair area.  Paul

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[406 Silverado]

Freakin' WOW!! Wow...Wow.............WOW!!!! And I do mean me some WOW!! Such great detailing being put into this ship build Paul. I've not built ............er....not REALLY built a ship model like this. I built one as a kid that turned out like crap but this.....stuff like this is on a whole nuther level. Will be watching this one come together potna.

[Tojo72]

All of that tiny detail is absolutely outstanding

[stikpusher]

Beautiful! The flight deck looks great and the aircraft are gonna look very sharp based upon what you’ve shown so far. You’re doing the old Langley justice, and then some!

[jeaton01]

Nice work. The Langley didn't end up as a Collier in the end, but it was hauling freight and P-40's to Java when it was sunk. Well you all probably all knew that already. I read a great book about those dark days, wish I could remember the title. The occasion was doing research on the Betty I built in the markings of one of the Prince of Whales attackers.


USS LANGLEY (AV-3)
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Title: USS LANGLEY (AV-3)
Caption: Is torpedoed by USS WHIPPLE (DD-217), after being abandoned, south of Java, 27 February 1942. Photograph from USS WHIPPLE (DD-217).
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Original Date: Fri, Feb 27, 1942

[406 Silverado]

jeaton01

That's some good information. I never knew the fate of the Langley, only that it was our first attempt at an aircraft carrier. Good input man.

[stikpusher]

Jun 16, 2023 6:44:10 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

jeaton01

That's some good information. I never knew the fate of the Langley, only that it was our first attempt at an aircraft carrier. Good input man.

Yeah, of the original 8 USN aircraft carriers commissioned before the Pearl Harbor, 5 were sunk in combat in the Pacific War.
CV-1/AV-3 USS Langley, scuttled off Java after battle damage by Japanese warplanes
CV-2 USS Lexington, sunk at Battle of Coral Sea, scuttled after air attack damage
CV-3 USS Saratoga, survived WWII, sunk in post war atomic bomb tests
CV-4 USS Ranger, served in Atlantic Fleet, survived WWII, scrapped post war
CV-5 USS Yorktown, sunk at Battle of Midway, combined damage of air and submarine attacks
CV-6 USS Enterprise, survived WWII, scrapped post war
CV-7 USS Wasp, sunk during Guadalcanal Campaign by submarine attack
CV-8 USS Hornet, sunk at Battle of Santa Cruz, last USN Fleet Carrier sunk in WWII.

[chromdome35]

WoW that is crazy good PE work! Very very nice.

[41chevy]

Jun 15, 2023 23:59:13 GMT -5 jeaton01 said:

Nice work. The Langley didn't end up as a Collier in the end, but it was hauling freight and P-40's to Java when it was sunk. Well you all probably all knew that already. I read a great book about those dark days, wish I could remember the title. The occasion was doing research on the Betty I built in the markings of one of the Prince of Whales attackers.

The book sounds like it would be a good read and a great source of information.

This is the back date I wanted to do to the Langley as the USS Jupiter, AC-3 was commissioned as a collier on April 7th, 1913. The ship was one of the Jupiter-class of fleet colliers. The USS Cyclops, the USS Neptune, the USS Proteus and the USS Nereus were all based on the same hull. On March 24th, 1920 the ship was decommissioned to be converted.The collier was chosen because it was deemed the easiest and cheapest way to build a carrier. After being refitted as an aircraft carrier, the ship was recommissioned on March 20th, 1922 as the USS Langley (CV 1),

In 1937 the Langley CV-1 was converted into a seaplane tender AV -3 and she was in that configuration when sunk. I have the Trumpeter AV-3 kit which it easier to back date to the 1913 Jupiter.

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[themongoose]

Cool stuff, plus some great history!
Are you using any of the new no-clean solder pastes or are you using flux and a soldering iron process? Id be interested to hear.

[41chevy]

Jun 22, 2023 11:26:15 GMT -5 themongoose said:

Cool stuff, plus some great history!
Are you using any of the new no-clean solder pastes or are you using flux and a soldering iron process? Id be interested to hear.

I'm using a Weller Digital soldering station  and a Micro Mark resistance solderer for delicate parts. I solder with Sta-Brite .022 Silver Solder and old school Paste Flux. The two things I do is soak the brass parts in Industrial Vinegar to clean and etch  the brass pre soldering and after it is soldered I soak it in 91% Denatured Alcohol to remove all traces off the flux.

[406 Silverado]

Jun 24, 2023 13:47:33 GMT -5 41chevy said:

Jun 22, 2023 11:26:15 GMT -5 themongoose said:

Cool stuff, plus some great history!
Are you using any of the new no-clean solder pastes or are you using flux and a soldering iron process? Id be interested to hear.

I'm using a Weller Digital soldering station  and a Micro Mark resistance solderer for delicate parts. I solder with Sta-Brite .022 Silver Solder and old school Paste Flux. The two things I do is soak the brass parts in Industrial Vinegar to clean and etch  the brass pre soldering and after it is soldered I soak it in 91% Denatured Alcohol to remove all traces off the flux.

Thanks for sharing some of your processes with us Paul as I never realized how much soldering went on with PE parts. Looking forward to more progress on this one buddy.

[41chevy]

Jun 24, 2023 13:58:55 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

Jun 24, 2023 13:47:33 GMT -5 41chevy said:

I'm using a Weller Digital soldering station  and a Micro Mark resistance solderer for delicate parts. I solder with Sta-Brite .022 Silver Solder and old school Paste Flux. The two things I do is soak the brass parts in Industrial Vinegar to clean and etch  the brass pre soldering and after it is soldered I soak it in 91% Denatured Alcohol to remove all traces off the flux.

Thanks for sharing some of your processes with us Paul as I never realized how much soldering went on with PE parts. Looking forward to more progress on this one buddy.

Most I believe use CA adhesive I personally like solder. for it's permanence.  It also just seems better to fit and blend joints.

[406 Silverado]

When you have that many joins to fasten together I can only imagine that you'd require strength in the bonds.

[41chevy]

Jun 24, 2023 14:38:42 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

When you have that many joins to fasten together I can only imagine that you'd require strength in the bonds.

The strength is one part, the other part is that when it is soldered you can tweek it some to alter the fit or to square it up. You can even sand or file it to fit better with no worry of CA failure.

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[406 Silverado]

Jun 28, 2023 22:52:37 GMT -5 41chevy said:

Jun 24, 2023 14:38:42 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

When you have that many joins to fasten together I can only imagine that you'd require strength in the bonds.

The strength is one part, the other part is that when it is soldered you can tweek it some to alter the fit or to square it up. You can even sand or file it to fit better with no worry of CA failure.

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That makes complete sense as I was wondering about how to fasten the braces underneath the flight deck without them going to pieces during the assembly process.

[moramartht]

Jun 16, 2023 6:44:10 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

jeaton01

That's some good information. I never knew the fate of the Langley, only that it was our first attempt at an aircraft carrier. Good input man.

USS Cyclops, the USS Neptune, the USS Proteus and the USS Nereus were all based on the same hull.

Cyclops, Proteus and Nereus were Jupiter's full sisters; of the four vessels, only USS Jupiter/Langley didn't go missing without trace in the Bermuda Triangle...

Cheers,

M

[41chevy]

Just finished the 3 accommodation ladders. Probably the finest rails(.005 dia.) I've ever bent and soldered together! Also is the float planes, catapult launch carrier and dolly for a secret project.

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[406 Silverado]

Paul that is some intense PE and soldering right there brother. I salute your patience and skills on this miniature project. Looking forward to what this “secret project “ of yours is…..