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Post by tcoat on Jan 20, 2024 20:36:56 GMT -5
This is the very, VERY nice Revell kit from 2017. I started this kit to practice my gloss painting skills (I still suck) a few years back and at some point lost the hood so it ended up on the shelf of doom at about 70% complete. Yesterday I was moving a bookshelf and low and behold there was the long lost hood underneath. Since I like to have multiple builds going I immediately went and grabbed the rest of the kit and got to work. No build pics as this was started a few years back. Interior was all painted so it just needed a wash to knock down the gloss and the dash decals placed. Chassis was all painted but still needs flat coat and a teeny tiny bit of weathering. Engine just needs a flat coat. Stock wheels before and after a wash with Academy Nulin Oil. I HATE the look of raw model kit chrome. It is just too bright! Engine bay had been all painted up but rest of body was untouched. Time to put a vinyl roof on it! Step one is to cover all the trim and nearby body panels with BMF. Things are going to get pretty aggressive and it is easier clean up to protect the trim than have to sand everything smooth later. Then we get two thin strips of styrene on for the seams. Next up is to brush on liberal amounts of Taniya Extra Thin cement. I stick to one section at a tie and brush on cement until the plastic get's tacky. Once tacky I use an old, splayed out, stiff paintbrush and just dab the sticky plastic up to for an irregular pebbly pattern. It is brown when I started because I leave the old pint from the last use in the brush to keep it stiff. Important to keep the dabs random to not create a pattern. When the whole roof was done the body was masked up and given a light coat of Dupli-Color rattle can black primer. No pics of the paint as I forgot! When the paint was just about dry it got another stipple with the brush just damp with TET. This keeps the effect but gives a dark base for the paint. Almost there. Now it get's a brushed on coat of Tamiya gloss black lacquer. Again it is stippled with the brush as it is applied. Don't want any sooth spots. Finally it is given a wash of Nulin Oil to knock the high gloss down to a semi gloss and give it a very convincing vinyl finish. This sounds like a lot of work but not counting drying times it was actually only a little over an hour. The pictures really exaggerate the effect and in person it looks more in scale and very realistic. Next up is gloss paint so I probably won't be able to sleep tonight with the apprehension.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 20, 2024 20:45:44 GMT -5
You're right about this being a very nice kit Tony. I've got two of 'em in the stash and can't wait to build one of these.
VERY cool job on the vinyl top btw!!
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Post by tcoat on Jan 20, 2024 20:52:09 GMT -5
You're right about this being a very nice kit Tony. I've got two of 'em in the stash and can't wait to build one of these. VERY cool job on the vinyl top btw!! Thanks. Wish I could get more accurate pictures though. With editing I can either make it look really heavy or almost completly disappear but not how it actually looks.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 20, 2024 20:53:10 GMT -5
You're right about this being a very nice kit Tony. I've got two of 'em in the stash and can't wait to build one of these. VERY cool job on the vinyl top btw!! Thanks. Wish I could get more accurate pictures though. With editing I can either make it look really heavy or almost completly disappear but not how it actually looks. That looks good right there in that last picture Tony. Some good work on an all too cool car man.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 20, 2024 20:54:19 GMT -5
I have never seen a vinyl top done this way but I absolutely love it. Thank you for the crash course. I’ve heard great things about that kit and have just been lucky to win one in a giveaway so I’ll give it the ol college try soon. Your interior, engine and chassis work also looks really nice. Looks like you had a great start on this one before you stopped.
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Post by tcoat on Jan 20, 2024 21:16:16 GMT -5
I have never seen a vinyl top done this way but I absolutely love it. Thank you for the crash course. I’ve heard great things about that kit and have just been lucky to win one in a giveaway so I’ll give it the ol college try soon. Your interior, engine and chassis work also looks really nice. Looks like you had a great start on this one before you stopped. Before finding this method I tried the "spray from a distance" method but didn't like that as it never had enough texture and was far to regular a pattern. Tried the masking tape method but compound curves were a nightmare. The textures paint method wasn't toooo bad but was sort of over scale. Not sure where I even heard about doing this.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 21, 2024 0:38:38 GMT -5
I have never seen a vinyl top done this way but I absolutely love it. Thank you for the crash course. I’ve heard great things about that kit and have just been lucky to win one in a giveaway so I’ll give it the ol college try soon. Your interior, engine and chassis work also looks really nice. Looks like you had a great start on this one before you stopped. Before finding this method I tried the "spray from a distance" method but didn't like that as it never had enough texture and was far to regular a pattern. Tried the masking tape method but compound curves were a nightmare. The textures paint method wasn't toooo bad but was sort of over scale. Not sure where I even heard about doing this. Ive done exactly one vinyl top. I did not add proper seams either. Never even crossed my mind. I just taped the roof line off and dusted it from far away. I was happy with it at the time but have since discovered new techniques like the one you’ve just showed us. Undoubtedly a huge, huge improvement over my pitiful attempt.
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Post by tcoat on Jan 21, 2024 0:57:37 GMT -5
Before finding this method I tried the "spray from a distance" method but didn't like that as it never had enough texture and was far to regular a pattern. Tried the masking tape method but compound curves were a nightmare. The textures paint method wasn't toooo bad but was sort of over scale. Not sure where I even heard about doing this. Ive done exactly one vinyl top. I did not add proper seams either. Never even crossed my mind. I just taped the roof line off and dusted it from far away. I was happy with it at the time but have since discovered new techniques like the one you’ve just showed us. Undoubtedly a huge, huge improvement over my pitiful attempt. The seams are sort of tricky and you really have to dig sometimes to get a proper reference. In the case of the Dart the original, factory installed vinyl roof had huge and very evident seams. Factory top: But the majority of the pictures out there are restored tops (they didn't usually last much longer than 10 years or so at best) which have much smaller and stealthy seams. Modern replacement top: Then of course other makes had different again. You can also be forgiven for not adding seams since in the late 60's early' 70s there was an aftermarket spray on "vinyl" top that didn't have seams. My 56 Chevy had such a spray on top when I got it. Pretty sure it was holding the car together since when I sanded it off the driver's side the car frame broke!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 21, 2024 1:16:37 GMT -5
Most excellent information, as usual. Spray on vinyl for that touch of class!! Lol. Also interesting that the aftermarket vinyl had such smaller seams. Here was my feeble attempt. This is the replica of my father-in-laws 1:1 car that I gifted to him for Christmas. So I had to make an attempt at vinyl to match the real car. As stated, I'd probably go about it differently now. Definitely going to practice your method.
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Post by tcoat on Jan 21, 2024 1:22:44 GMT -5
Most excellent information, as usual. Spray on vinyl for that touch of class!! Lol. Also interesting that the aftermarket vinyl had such smaller seams. Here was my feeble attempt. This is the replica of my father-in-laws 1:1 car that I gifted to him for Christmas. So I had to make an attempt at vinyl to match the real car. As stated, I'd probably go about it differently now. Definitely going to practice your method. Yep call that one a spray on and run with it. Real vinyl with no trim would be flapping in the wind in no time!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 21, 2024 1:27:26 GMT -5
Oh yeah, but I wasn't confident enough to try to attach styrene strips to the model I was giving as a gift. In hindsight, I could have easily sourced another Camaro kit to practice on. I actually have one right now. But I didn't think of it. Spray on it is. Lol
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Post by handiabled on Jan 21, 2024 5:26:04 GMT -5
Bookmark this one! Your vinyl roof technique has a great looking end result.
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Post by tcoat on Jan 21, 2024 13:39:16 GMT -5
Since I wanted to do the orange but it needed to be deepened a bit I gave the car a primer coat of flat NATO brown. When it dried I loved the look of it but I try to stay faithful to stock colours when I do cars so off to the color chips I went. Found this for '68 I think a couple of drops of black will bring the NATO brown to a close enough for scale colour! Gonna' give it a go. If I don't like it I can still go with the orange.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 21, 2024 16:38:00 GMT -5
Sweet!! I absolutely love that color. Will look awesome on this car.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jan 21, 2024 16:42:14 GMT -5
Oh yeah.....you've got it going on with that painting Tony. Looking forward to seeing if it all works out for you man.
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Post by tcoat on Jan 22, 2024 13:31:09 GMT -5
OK so Tamiya Hull Red is pretty much bang on the Dodge colour!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 22, 2024 17:21:32 GMT -5
OK so Tamiya Hull Red is pretty much bang on the Dodge colour! oh yeah. I REALLY like this. Great choice.
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Post by project510 on Jan 22, 2024 18:51:48 GMT -5
I have this kit also, so I am excited to see you build it. First car I ever drove was a 68 Dart. I am hoping to build this kit as a reminder of it but I need to find the color. My moms was a goldish brown with a black vinyl top like the one you are painting here. I miss that car!
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Post by tcoat on Jan 22, 2024 20:04:56 GMT -5
I have this kit also, so I am excited to see you build it. First car I ever drove was a 68 Dart. I am hoping to build this kit as a reminder of it but I need to find the color. My moms was a goldish brown with a black vinyl top like the one you are painting here. I miss that car! Like this?
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Post by project510 on Jan 22, 2024 23:25:53 GMT -5
Ok definitley not golden brown. I just called her, she said rootbeer brown Im certain it was one of these also it was a 69 not a 68.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 22, 2024 23:59:26 GMT -5
Saddle bronze. What a delightfully period color.
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Post by tcoat on Jan 23, 2024 11:46:05 GMT -5
Saddle bronze. What a delightfully period color. The days when earth tones were common and black, white and silver/grey almost did not exist. I miss those days of colour. Now looking at a parking lot is like watching a black and white movie.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 23, 2024 15:03:44 GMT -5
Saddle bronze. What a delightfully period color. The days when earth tones were common and black, white and silver/grey almost did not exist. I miss those days of colour. Now looking at a parking lot is like watching a black and white movie. Couldn’t agree more. Not a fan of the black, white and grey phase we’re in. So uninspired. Which is why I went a different route on color
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Post by tcoat on Jan 23, 2024 15:08:00 GMT -5
The days when earth tones were common and black, white and silver/grey almost did not exist. I miss those days of colour. Now looking at a parking lot is like watching a black and white movie. Couldn’t agree more. Not a fan of the black, white and grey phase we’re in. So uninspired. Which is why I went a different route on color You need to take another picture there is a Honda in the way.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 23, 2024 15:17:23 GMT -5
🤣🤣 Not the most exciting car for sure. But it’s hard to imagine one better for the back and forth to work. I had an e46 bmw before this. This is more comfortable for the 50 mile round trip. Doesn’t handle quite the same, however it has plenty of power from the V6 and gas mileage is solid.And the The 6 speed manual adds to the nice driving experience. And maintenance is dirt cheap. Very pedestrian I know.
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Post by tcoat on Jan 23, 2024 17:24:43 GMT -5
🤣🤣 Not the most exciting car for sure. But it’s hard to imagine one better for the back and forth to work. I had an e46 bmw before this. This is more comfortable for the 50 mile round trip. Doesn’t handle quite the same, however it has plenty of power from the V6 and gas mileage is solid.And the The 6 speed manual adds to the nice driving experience. And maintenance is dirt cheap. Very pedestrian I know. Oh I know. It is just as a Toyota/Subaru owner I am required by internet law to slam Honda whenever I can! Otherwise a bunch of guys in flatbrim caps will come and poke me with their vape pens.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 23, 2024 17:34:38 GMT -5
🤣🤣 Not the most exciting car for sure. But it’s hard to imagine one better for the back and forth to work. I had an e46 bmw before this. This is more comfortable for the 50 mile round trip. Doesn’t handle quite the same, however it has plenty of power from the V6 and gas mileage is solid.And the The 6 speed manual adds to the nice driving experience. And maintenance is dirt cheap. Very pedestrian I know. Oh I know. It is just as a Toyota/Subaru owner I am required by internet law to slam Honda whenever I can! Otherwise a bunch of guys in flatbrim caps will come and poke me with their vape pens. lol. That’s fair enough. My only defense is it’s not an autotragic and I like the color. But now I’m going to for sure start tailgating Subaru/Toyota drivers and chugging monster energy drinks. 😂
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Post by keavdog on Jan 23, 2024 18:37:53 GMT -5
Great kit! So many extra goodies in the box. Your top looks awesome. I did mine box stock/box top I'd build another in a heart beat.
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Post by dodgy on Jan 23, 2024 18:45:52 GMT -5
It's funny how techniques can cross genres. I've been using the stipple/glue effect for years when trying to represent a cast effect on armour. You've done a superb job here tcoat. Love the tip about nuln oil and chrome too. I also drive a Toyota, but as she's gunmetal in colour I must admit to being one of the plebs who own drab vehicles. I named her Tess, short for testosterone, because when I brought her Home, my wife laughed and called her a big boys toy, hence testosterone. She's an old 92 model ute, what you folks in the States would call a pickup. She's 4wd and has a really big bullbar for tailgating Hondas.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jan 23, 2024 19:01:57 GMT -5
I’d love to have an old yoter pickup to bang around in.
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