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Post by john3m on Jun 4, 2024 16:57:59 GMT -5
If you were to list one or two things that you learned the hard way regarding when you sit down to build your model or paint, what would be the things that you would pass on to others so that they don’t make the same mistakes? When I got back in the modelling last year, I had problems with knocking things over or losing bottle caps I can’t blame losing my memory to every thing I messed up I realise that in the rush to do something build something or paint something I wasn’t really paying close attention to where I set things down where my hand is going when reaching for something so if I was going to pass something on it would probably be, slow down be careful where you put things. The other thing I started doing was keeping a spreadsheet for my models so that I know which paint I’ve been using and where I put it on the model because I have so many paints that can become confusing anyway that’s my story and I’m sticking to it
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Post by plstcjunky on Jun 4, 2024 17:21:11 GMT -5
After I knocked over a brand new bottle of model cement, I now glue a 2 or 3 inch square piece of 1/4" plastic to the bottom of my bottles of anything that can be spilled. I use something like window silicone sealer or similar soft material that the 1/4" piece can be cut off and reused once the bottle of cement etc., is empty.
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Post by keavdog on Jun 4, 2024 17:30:57 GMT -5
Patience and keep your hands clean.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jun 4, 2024 18:16:10 GMT -5
Now this is a good thread john3m. Good points on both issues that helped you out. I've had the same thing with rushing to get to something and then all kinds of calamity happens. Good idea on the spreadsheet as well. The biggest thing I learned along the way was how NOT to apply lacquer based paints/ clears over enamel color coats. What a lesson that was!!! Enamel over lacquers = ![emotion-21](https://cs.finescale.com/emoticons/emotion-21.gif) ........lacquer over enamels =
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Post by tcoat on Jun 4, 2024 18:17:25 GMT -5
I find that if I have enough stuff around NOTHING can get knocked over! ![](https://i.postimg.cc/G2pLwL2S/P1040796.jpg) And yes this is normal and how and where everything get's built
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Post by 406 Silverado on Jun 4, 2024 18:17:51 GMT -5
After I knocked over a brand new bottle of model cement, I now glue a 2 or 3 inch square piece of 1/4" plastic to the bottom of my bottles of anything that can be spilled. I use something like window silicone sealer or similar soft material that the 1/4" piece can be cut off and reused once the bottle of cement etc., is empty. Nice!! That may come in handy for the Microsol bottles. Patience and keep your hands clean. YES!!!!!! Absolute MUSTS!!! I've made more mistakes by NOT following these two practices.
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Post by lyle on Jun 5, 2024 8:46:48 GMT -5
Wow. This was a gut punch for me. . . as if you have been hiding in my "Piddle Palace". I once tried to start a thread somewhere regarding Bench Discipline. I've probably spilled a couple of gallons of stuff over the last number of years, coffee (3 keyboards), Tamiya glue (Floki's 3D printed holders - recommend highly), Solvaset (2-3 bottles), paint, thinner, small cups of various things. . . .I lose tools by simply putting t hem down in front of me.
I got several of the holders from Floki and he was kind enough to design and make me a couiple that would hold the larger Tamiya jars and the Solvaset size bottles. The ones for the Extra Thin have save a bottle or two already.
Discipline, I must learn. Coffee has its area, opened jars are closed as soon as I'm finished with them, etc. AND, I still spill stuff.
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Post by project510 on Jun 5, 2024 12:07:21 GMT -5
Since I newly back into the hobby, I would say I have so much more to learn. So far, the most important for me has been a clean organized work space is crucial. Spills, lost pieces, or skipped steps occur when working in an area a cluttered mess of open paint, parts all over. That's why I'm rebuilding the space to be as organized and clean as I can be.
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Post by Tojo72 on Jun 5, 2024 12:12:46 GMT -5
Sometimes you know as soon as you pick up a brush or x-acto that it's not your day,it's usually not good to power through,things get worse,put it down and come back later or tomorrow.
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Post by project510 on Jun 5, 2024 12:27:42 GMT -5
Sometimes you know as soon as you pick up a brush or x-acto that it's not your day, it's usually not good to power through, things get worse, put it down and come back later or tomorrow. This is my 2nd most crucial thing I have learned. When to just step back and pause. Such a good one!
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Post by maverick on Jun 5, 2024 14:23:49 GMT -5
Two things...ok maybe three #1. Good tools, don't buy cheap harbor freight junk. Yes a 10 dollar pair of tweezers will hurt now but... Feeding that tiny piece of photo etch to the carpet because your cheap tweezers couldn't hold on to it long enough to get it in position. That's gonna hurt more.
#2. Take your time with paint prep and take your time when painting. Be thorough with your part/body prep prior to paint. Be certain its all ready for paint. Its harder and more time/resource consuming to have to do it over because you didn't sand it smooth or get that mold line off. Plan out your paint job/process for your project. Plan out a sequence to paint parts in. Set up the parts to be painted so they are easy to hold, easy to see and easy to place somewhere where they can dry without being in the way or exposed to the rest of the paint process.
#3. Paint does not fill dents scratches or holes. learn to stop when something goes badly or not as expected. More paint/clear isn't going to fix that cat hair in the roof...
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Post by kyledehart5 on Jun 5, 2024 18:14:16 GMT -5
Really an excellent thread here. I agree with everything. I’ve certainly had my share of spills. Knowing when to step away because today isn’t your day is definitely a useful tool. All my knife handles are oddly shaped so they don’t roll off the bench and stab me. That one was a near miss that I got out ahead of. Lol. And nothing is more important than patience for sure. Good stuff fellas.
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Post by Tobi on Jun 6, 2024 0:48:15 GMT -5
Model building is also about making mistakes. Good modelers learn how to turn their mishaps into success. I rememeber when I built my Fokker DR.I, I had one side ready and flipped it around. In order to protect the finish I put a piece of paper towel under it, not realising it was damp with lacquer thinner. Major disaster, but after repair the model made it into the display cabinet, not the bin
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Post by Medicman71 on Jun 6, 2024 11:15:34 GMT -5
Some great tips. My first one is be careful on what you use Xacto knives on. Xacto knives in the hand hurt like a MFer!!
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Post by tcoat on Jun 6, 2024 11:24:35 GMT -5
Some great tips. My first one is be careful on what you use Xacto knives on. Xacto knives in the hand hurt like a MFer!! ![](https://i.postimg.cc/Kzm59084/2024-02-29-20-50-00.jpg)
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Post by Medicman71 on Jun 6, 2024 12:23:08 GMT -5
Some great tips. My first one is be careful on what you use Xacto knives on. Xacto knives in the hand hurt like a MFer!! ![](https://i.postimg.cc/Kzm59084/2024-02-29-20-50-00.jpg)
Wow! That looks exactly like my hand after the stitches!!
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Post by tcoat on Jun 6, 2024 12:26:18 GMT -5
Wow! That looks exactly like my hand after the stitches!!
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Post by keavdog on Jun 6, 2024 12:26:43 GMT -5
Kinda creepy that Tony saved that pic 😂
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Post by tcoat on Jun 6, 2024 12:30:43 GMT -5
Kinda creepy that Tony saved that pic 😂 ![](https://25.media.tumblr.com/2f35d0d2c2c91257529b58189ef7eba3/tumblr_mje5py53G31r0m2zho1_500.gif)
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Post by Medicman71 on Jun 6, 2024 12:54:03 GMT -5
Kinda creepy that Tony saved that pic 😂
Right? What the hell?
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Post by tcoat on Jun 6, 2024 13:01:11 GMT -5
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Post by chromdome35 on Jun 6, 2024 16:33:05 GMT -5
The biggest thing I've learned in life is to not pee on electric fences.
In regards to modeling, I think my biggest lesson learned is to slow down, take my time and enjoy the process.
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Post by eaglecash867 on Jun 6, 2024 20:23:18 GMT -5
Once I learned the correct way to use Tamiya Extra Thin Cement from a YouTuber in Singapore, modeling has been much more relaxing. I also learned in the last few years that, for me anyway, using traditional modeling putties is a waste of time and makes an unnecessary mess. CA to completely fill seams, and Apoxie Clay to partially fill seams where I want a uniform panel line...both game changers for my finishing process. The Apoxie Clay even completely eliminates the need for sanding, water-soluble before it cures, and doesn't crack after it cures.
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Post by tcoat on Jun 7, 2024 10:41:13 GMT -5
Once I learned the correct way to use Tamiya Extra Thin Cement from a YouTuber in Singapore, modeling has been much more relaxing. I also learned in the last few years that, for me anyway, using traditional modeling putties is a waste of time and makes an unnecessary mess. CA to completely fill seams, and Apoxie Clay to partially fill seams where I want a uniform panel line...both game changers for my finishing process. The Apoxie Clay even completely eliminates the need for sanding, water-soluble before it cures, and doesn't crack after it cures. Is this the stuff? Sounds amazing for all sorts of things. ![](https://sculpturesupply.com/cdn/shop/products/236372.jpg?v=1675707118&width=1200)
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Post by eaglecash867 on Jun 7, 2024 11:14:44 GMT -5
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Post by Real G on Jun 7, 2024 14:27:06 GMT -5
Don't rush.
Read the instructions.
Ignore these words at your own peril.
I have violated these rules and have paid dearly, even in recent times. I have glued similar parts reversed, and then the glue somehow transformed into a hyper-cement, making undoing the mistake impossible. I had to buy another SBG bridge for my AFV Club Churchill AVRE because of this.
I have forgotten to add a part before zipping up a turret, making a simple operation extremely difficult or messy. The side guns for my Trumpeter Object 490B were modded to take polycaps, but I forgot to add them, which required drilling out the sides of the assembled turret, adding the polycaps, then patching the gaping holes.
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Post by TJ on Jun 14, 2024 4:17:01 GMT -5
For me, its not pushing to buikd. Its a hobby, its supposed to be fun. If I'm not motivated, I'll do something else
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