hawkenstein 2 finished

[fightnjoe]

yes folks here i go again.

i have been having a blast here lately and i thought why not go with the flow.

since the original hawkenstein i have been iching to try even more detail work on one of them birds. thinking about the hawk and all the wonderful stuff i have i thought why not.

now let me set the stage. this is going to be me posting the fun. i am going to take a monogram/revell p-40b in 1/48 and i am going to try to add a ton of detail and have a boatload of fun. to be honest i am excited about building again. my funk may be in the past, not sure, i hope so though. i havent thought of the markings. i havent thought out the build other than the initial cuts which i am going to show you soon. i am just going with it. and the best part i am going to involve the audience a little. yep. you get to join me in some decision making.

let me start with the kit. a basic monogram/revell kit in 1/48.



and what the sprues look like. sorry got excited and didnt really get close ups just a distance shot.



now the first cuts. flaps and such are now separate.





now i got to tell you i have never redone panel lines nor have i tried to do recessed rivits. not sure about doing that on this one either.

now you may have noticed some additional cuts. how about the access panel? or the fuel slots?



now when i was doing this my eye caught an interesting possibility. i have a resin engine for this. i also have o2 bottles. i have some other goodies as well. that got me thinking on how to make the access panel. the last time i tried this it was sloppy at best. this time i wanted a nice clean look. so i took some aluminum foil. using a cotton bud i burnished the foil down over the hatch as molded on the fuse. i then cut out the impression and taped it to an aluminum pop can i had previously cut up. i then cut out the hatch. IT WORKED. success. then i thought well if i was to open the engine area up, could i reconstruct some panels, oh YEAH. sucess again.




hmmm got to work tomorow but this could be so much fun.

now for the first of the you get to help questions.

what do you think?
-open the engine compartment and have fun detailing.
-just build it closed up.

what do you think??

comments and criticisms are encouraged.


joe

[Deleted]

Hiya Joe, nice to see an old kit being given a new lease of life! The foil trick is a good one

[bullardino]

Nice start, I must say

To show or not to show, that is the question... I think you should ask yourself what you want to tell the viewers. If it'll be a standalone plane, to be shown without a dio, maybe the all open option could be the right one.

But if you want to tell a story with a small dio, then think about what will this story be and act accordingly

[fightnjoe]

many thanks for the kind words and the input.

to be honest luigi i am not sure where i am going with this. this is an experiment in seeing if i can take all that i have learned in the last few builds, add it to what i thought i knew from before, take it all and put it into practice.

it is funny though, not sure if i read about the foil or what but it is so easy to do and so simple. i used the clear tape and this reinforced the foil in such a way i can use it over and over for the different panels. when you burnish it down over the subject it makes such a fantastic template.


the "poll" will be in place until tomorow morning and then i will proceed. the overall across all the boards i am on is to open her up. if that continues i will start the destruction process tomorow morning.

joe

[robbo]

Very nice start Joe, I'd go the whole hog and open her up mate and get that engine in there

[fightnjoe]

thank you for the kind words and the input.


joe

[Thom]

Joe It would be a shame to add a nice piece of resin to the kit and not show it, I say go for it and open it up.

Cheers,
Thom

[bullardino]

If it is going to be a test for new techniques, I'd go all the way down to the all open version. And then place it on a mirror base to show off

[Deleted]

Joe....I'd have to agree with,Lui....If you've got the AM to throw at it....go the whole hog!!!!! ;D.From what i've seen you can do this ole bird a bit of justice

[fightnjoe]

many thanks for the input. open her up it is.




joe

[fightnjoe]

ok day two...

today was the day for some destruction. first i made some cuts on the fuse so the engine would be viewed. then when i saw how much i had opened it up well to be honest i panicked.

when i calmed down some i started taking a look at what needed to be done. first i sanded down the interior details in the pit. i then started the building up process again. i added the ribs and then looked at how the pit floor would sit. i then mocked up a fuel tank so i could figure out how much room i needed. then i constructed a hydrolic tank and the fuel hoses for the fuel tank. while i looked that over i started thinking about the engine compartment and the bulkhead between the engine and the pit. well i played a little with that as well.

between the turkey and the plastic it really wasnt too bad of a day.











honestly i just keep thinking that i am missing something.



comments, criticism, critiques encouraged.


joe

[bullardino]

Nice scratchbuilding, joe

I cannot help on missing items, I'm no P40 expert, I've been stuck on luftwaffe planes for most of my modelling life.

[Deleted]

No choice now,fella.....gotta show off that Allison donk,now!!!!

[fightnjoe]

full speed ahead. doing some light work on it tonight, tomorow more, and then i will post pics.


joe

[ogrejohn]

Looking good Joe!

[fightnjoe]

thanks john.


joe

[deafpanzer]

Excellent scratch buildin' there! Keep it comin'!

[fightnjoe]

andy thank you for the kind words.


joe

[bbd468]

Great start Joe on and old work horse war bird. I like the old P-40's.

Gary

[fightnjoe]

gary thank you. the p-40 and the b-17 are my two favorite planes.



joe

[fightnjoe]

well now an update.

over the last week or so i have played a bit with the pit and the engine compartment.





and with some paint.




now with this i also wanted to play a bit with the firewall and the engine mounts. i have found several dozen versions of the engine mounts and went with something similar to what is on one of the better p-40 sites.





you will notice i also redid the firewall. this is definitely a better version and allows a bit more detail without looking overboard. now for some help. what do you think of the engine mounts? they are but a mock up. they are not set in stone yet. i also have looked this seat and frame over and i am not happy with it. i plan to redo the seat and frame. all of this that you see in this update is prior to any plumbing. i plan to add just a bit to give the impression of what is there but not going overboard. i have to also add some detail to the engine mounts when i get comfortable with them. i want to mock up the mounts and the engine and get that squared away as well.

comments, critiques, criticism encouraged.


joe

[fightnjoe]

jackwagon thanks for the kind words. my attempts at putting every detail into these is long gone. now i just want to put some in but i want it to look right.


joe

[venom1]

Hey Joe,

I am an avid wingy builder and I say bravo sir! I think you are off to a cracking start!

At the end of the day, this is your build so you need to detail to the level that you are comfortable with. I know of guys who build only one or two models a year and detail them to the nth degree. I know others who build exclusively OOB. Personally I fall somewhere in between, some I do OOB, others I add extra detail. I am with Dicky tho, it's all about representing what is there rather than reproducing every nut and bolt. Otherwise you can send yourself loopy! If it gets to the point where the detail level you are adding is becoming unfun in anyway, you need to step back and take a breath and reevaluate the situation!

Whatever way you decide to go, we are all enjoying the ride!! ;D

Cheers,

Sam

[bullardino]

Joe, I like the way you chose. As I said before, I'm no P40 expert, so I can't tell if it's right or wrong, but I can tell it's very well built and realistic.

[fightnjoe]

thank you for the kind words.


joe

[fightnjoe]

ok just a quick update.

redone engine mounts. what do you think?





and just what is a guy to do. i had to. it was required.




comments, critiques, criticisms encouraged.


joe

[deafpanzer]

My eyes hurt when I looked at last pictures... great work!

[`Boots`]

Sorry Joe...........i could have sworn i passed by here and posted , ya done some really neat work here buddy and that engine mount looks terrific ;D...............keep up the fine work my friend

[Deleted]

Joe,that second attempt at the engine frame looks a lot neater mate!I like it...

[fightnjoe]

many thanks for the kind words.



joe