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Post by julie on Oct 6, 2013 16:07:45 GMT -5
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Post by Leon on Oct 6, 2013 16:16:26 GMT -5
Julie,thank you for a fantastic article and thanks for sharing.
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Post by `Boots` on Oct 6, 2013 16:28:23 GMT -5
Thats a great bit of info to put in the collection for future reference.........thanks Julie
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Post by TRM on Oct 6, 2013 18:07:07 GMT -5
Awesome work there Ms. Julie!! Nicely presented!! Extremely valuable not only to modern builds but certainly to show the overall wear-n-tear that all vehicles go through!! Well done!!
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Post by julie on Oct 7, 2013 15:48:03 GMT -5
Hi guys, Your compliment makes me very, very happy, because I see that this article will be useful for your next models. Thank you. Julie
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Post by Tobi on Oct 8, 2013 1:24:12 GMT -5
Interesting article Julie, though I have to object that the NATO colors are all the same! I know first hand the differences in green, brown and black for German, Italian and French Army on freshly painted vehicles.
I did some research on colors during the summer myself, the results can be found in my Leopard 2A4 thread.
Cheers, Tobi
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Post by paulh. on Oct 8, 2013 5:21:06 GMT -5
An intersting article Julie . Thank you for sharing. P
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Post by TRM on Oct 8, 2013 6:06:13 GMT -5
Interesting article Julie, though I have to object that the NATO colors are all the same! I know first hand the differences in green, brown and black for German, Italian and French Army on freshly painted vehicles. I did some research on colors during the summer myself, the results can be found in my Leopard 2A4 thread. Cheers, Tobi Hey Tobi, I agree with you buddy, there is a difference between countries and color used for the NATO camo. But….I do think that some of what Julie explained in the article changes a bit through the translation. "There are no variations between the French colors, German, Turkish or American" I think refers to the overall basic camo applications and not necessarily the color tone being the same on them all. This led me to interpret the next sentences: "However, each country uses, in additional, different paints for complete the 3 NATO colors. In France, there is a old green which is much less used today." to mean that they use different paints more of less. I could be wrong but this appears to be a simple word placement that happens from the translation from French to English. Just my take on it was all. I really like seeing transitional fading that she has shown is excellent I think. Amazing how quick the sun’s effects work on breaking the colors down especially the black.
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Post by Tobi on Oct 8, 2013 10:27:35 GMT -5
Could be T, I have to confess I don't know French, so I had no access to the original phrasing. Perhaps my misunderstanding.
That the colors are fading so rapidly is due to the fact they are flat. A glossy paint finish is much more resistant, but unsuitable for camo of course. I know MAN therefore painted the trucks with a 30% gloss portion in factory back in 2007. Still looks flat to the human eye, but means better resistance.
Cheers, Tobi
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Post by TRM on Oct 9, 2013 19:53:08 GMT -5
LOL...I don't know French to much myself to be honest. I do work with hundreds of clients from around the world and I tend to read or listen carefully if for nothing else but to protect their business interests. I can only assume, without discussing directly with Julie as to whether or not I am correct. I know..."ASS-U-ME" saying...LOL!!!
That is good to know on the "glossy" factor....and yeah, not too good on the Camo! But interesting they use a percentage to salvage the paint. Re-painting vehicles is a favorite pastime....ask the Boss...LOL!!!
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Post by bbd468 on Oct 10, 2013 21:20:43 GMT -5
Thanks so much Julie! A wealth of info for all model enthusiast.....Well done!
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