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Post by wing_nut on Feb 21, 2014 16:23:32 GMT -5
Does such a list exist? Having been doing more armour than aircraft of late I am not used to working with enamels and had some difficulties. Since there may be more Luftwaffe aircraft in my future I was wonder if anyone has comes across a list of formulas to mix the RLM colors with Tamiya paint.
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Post by JimD on Feb 21, 2014 16:36:58 GMT -5
I sure haven't seen one but I'm hoping someone will find one.
I just wish Tamiya would make a full range of RLM colors. I had just started falling in live with enamels, but not having a spray booth in not sure I want to use them indoors.
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Post by imatanker on Feb 21, 2014 16:43:01 GMT -5
Marc, I don't know if there is a list but I have something that might help. Do you have an Iphone or Ipad? If you do, there is an app called imodelkit that you can down load for free. It will enable you to match RLM colors using Tammy paint. If I remember right, if you don't have an Iphone or pad you can download it through ITunes. I haven't tried that. Hope this helps.
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Post by bullardino on Feb 21, 2014 17:18:28 GMT -5
Otherwise you can browse the IPMS Stockholm colour charts Here |
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Post by dupes on Feb 21, 2014 18:55:35 GMT -5
From the colorblind guy who relies 100% on formulas like these: RLM65 - XF-23 RLM70 - XF-62 (50%) + XF-49 (50%) or XF-27 or XF-13 RLM71 - XF-61 RLM74 - XF-27(70%) + XF-19(30%) RLM75 - XF-54 + XF-51 (unknown %ages) RLM76 - XF-23 (60%) + XF-2 (40%) and Tamiya's own suggestions for each (from kit instructions): RLM 02:- XF22:1 + XF49:1 RLM 65:- XF23:1 + XF2:1 RLM 70: XF27 RLM 71:- XF62:1 + XF49:1 RLM 74:- XF24:3 + XF27:2 RLM 75:- XF24:5 + XF50:1 RLM 76:- XF2:7 + XF23:1 + XF66:2 RLM 79:- XF59:3 + XF64:1 RLM 80:- XF58 RLM 81:- XF51:1 + XF64:2 RLM 82:- XF5 or XF5:1 + XF2:1 or XF5:1 +XF3:1 (Bright Green) RLM 83:- XF61 or XF24:1 + XF51:1 (Dark Green)  |
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Post by Tobi on Feb 22, 2014 3:34:18 GMT -5
Copied, thanks!
Though I have to say MKI eyeball system ain't that bad here also.
As with every colour there have been and will always be deviations in production. During WWII these have been sometimes also pretty harsh.
Cheers,
Tobi
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Post by wing_nut on Feb 22, 2014 20:23:45 GMT -5
Hey... thanks for all the responses guys Jeff, I don't have an Iphone but do have Itunes on the PC. I'll try that. Marc... I could kiss your little shaved head. But I won't  Thanks pal-o-mine. Copied and stored safely away. Agree 100% Tobi on the variations bit. I NEVER get into that discussion when the rivet counters come out to play  |
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Post by imatanker on Feb 22, 2014 20:28:07 GMT -5
Marc, let me know how you make out with the ITunes thing either way will ya? I'd really like to have it on my PC. Thanks
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Post by wing_nut on Feb 22, 2014 20:30:00 GMT -5
So far it says it's downloaded but damned if i can figure out how to get it to work now... or even find it on my PC.
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Post by imatanker on Feb 22, 2014 20:43:09 GMT -5
What are you running for windows? XP, 7, 8? |
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Post by dupes on Feb 22, 2014 21:33:19 GMT -5
Marc... I could kiss your little shaved head. But I won't Thanks pal-o-mine. Copied and stored safely away. No problem sir! Hope they work out for you. Glad to be of assistance. |
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Post by Rick on Feb 26, 2014 8:02:14 GMT -5
Dupes, feel your pain on this one. For years I did armor and exclusively Tamiya. Started winging it again last year. Same frustrations. Tried a few mixes but quickly decided to suck it up and now use a full line of model master enamels for my German aircraft. I struggled with them at first getting them thinned down enough. Now able to use them with no problem. I really like the Tamiya acrylics but to me it's not worth the mixing hassles. Wish they would add a RLM color range to the line and I'd be happy as a clam.
Rick
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Post by JimD on Feb 26, 2014 10:01:25 GMT -5
I tried enamels for the first time about a year ago, and I haven't looked back. Most people make the switch the other way...lol...not me. I just bought the entire range of RLM colors of Model Master this past weekend, just to be stocked up.
My tip for you, Rick, would be to grab some Mr. Leveling Thinner. The Model Master enamel thinner works ok for general work, but the lacquer leveling thinner is a game changer....you can even use it on Tamiya acrylics....
I downloaded that app last night....I know people moan about the colors you see on a digital screen not being an actual representation of the real life color...blah blah...but I was able to mix up some RLM 04 using Insignia Yellow and Sandgelb with the app...awesome!
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Post by Rick on Feb 26, 2014 12:35:14 GMT -5
Jimmy I have a bottle of he mr leveling thinner but have t tried it with MM paints. Been using the MM thinner but I'll give it a shot on a beater to see if it makes a difference. Thanks for the tip.
Rick
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Post by JimD on Feb 26, 2014 13:17:34 GMT -5
Yup, absolutely try it out. You can push the Model Master enamels a pretty good ways using Mr. Leveling. I got the tip from DoogsATX. It isn't really necessary most of the time, but if you want to do some very subtle post-shading, or intricate stuff like on German aircraft it's a good go to.
I've been using general hardware store lacquer thinner for general use the past couple of days (ran out of regular thinner), and it seems to work well too. But I did extensive testing on scrap stuff just to ensure it wouldn't eat the plastic...so far so good...I'm sure at some point I'll have a catastrophe if I keep it up though.
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Post by dupes on Feb 26, 2014 17:14:09 GMT -5
My tip for you, Rick, would be to grab some Mr. Leveling Thinner. The Model Master enamel thinner works ok for general work, but the lacquer leveling thinner is a game changer....you can even use it on Tamiya acrylics.... Is this the stuff? www.modelsrgo.co.uk/mr-color-levelling-thinner-110ml.htmlWhere do you buy that in the U.S.? |
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Post by dupes on Feb 26, 2014 17:16:52 GMT -5
...there is an app called imodelkit that you can down load for free. It will enable you to match RLM colors using Tammy paint. If I remember right, if you don't have an Iphone or pad you can download it through ITunes. Ohhhhhh how I wish there were an Android version of this!!!  |
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Post by JimD on Feb 26, 2014 17:26:56 GMT -5
Yes, dupes, that's it. Sprue Brothers carries it. However, they seem to go "out of stock" of it frequently. I order the big bottle of ot last time I saw they had some.
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Post by dupes on Feb 26, 2014 18:35:01 GMT -5
Alrighty...I'll have to keep an eye out over there.
Any idea what's in it?
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Post by MOOSE. on Feb 26, 2014 18:53:46 GMT -5
...there is an app called imodelkit that you can down load for free. It will enable you to match RLM colors using Tammy paint. If I remember right, if you don't have an Iphone or pad you can download it through ITunes. Ohhhhhh how I wish there were an Android version of this!!! Hey Dupes I believe there is an android version... Lemme see... I had an app before for mixing paint but I had deleted it because it was primarily paint not readily available in the states Mike |
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Post by JimD on Feb 26, 2014 18:55:28 GMT -5
I know it has a retarder in in which is supposed to make the paint distribute more evenly. I guess it's that property that makes it so great for stretching the paint really thin.
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Post by MOOSE. on Feb 26, 2014 19:03:43 GMT -5
Dupes... Android version is "Hobby Color Converter". Seems much better now too
Mike
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Post by dupes on Feb 26, 2014 20:22:39 GMT -5
Moose - it's close, but doesn't have the mixing function of the apple app. Dang.
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Thanks pal-o-mine. Copied and stored safely away.
