Big Stuff Group Build " BSGB"

[armornutii]

  BUMP for any one with a Big Scale kit they may want to use for this GB.

[tcoat]

Nov 12, 2023 16:28:30 GMT -5 armornutii said:

  BUMP for any one with a Big Scale kit they may want to use for this GB.

Does this count? it is all I have.

[armornutii]

 Heck ya!! Gotchya on the roster

[tcoat]

Oct 1, 2023 18:57:37 GMT -5 buddho said:

I will have to look for a big bust...

I ALWAYS am looking for big busts!

[stikpusher]

Are crossovers between GB's allowed? Asking for a friend...

[armornutii]

   Well Stik, since I kinda make the basic rules, what type of crossover are we talking. I really don't mind however for my " internet integrity", LOL, I should probaby be aware. Please give me a overlook of what your friend... has in mind. Between you and me probably  but lets see what I'm stepping in please.

[stikpusher]

Maybe a 1/32 Focke Wulf... 

[armornutii]

   After reviewing my guidelines, AAANNND given the avaiability of the really big scales, 1/35th isn't much bigger than 1/32.......Welcome aboard Stik...er Stiks friend  .
  
       So to be fair I will edit my guidelines to reflect the allowance of 1/32nd aircraft into th BSGB.

[moramartht]

Sci-Fi: while this is difficult to set a rule on as most subjects are ficticious a recommendation is 1/350 or larger. I think I can allow anything bigger than 1/72 without incuring to much grief.

May I suggest that for (at least) Sci-Fi/Fantasy and Miscellaneous/Not Otherwise Classified (Edifices?) you abandon scales and set minimum critical dimensions; length, height, width. diameter for example, where meeting any one of which will qualify the build.  Scale could then become an advisory, rather than a definition.   "Miscellaneous" could then include subjects which otherwise might fit in other groups but don't fit the specifications, I'd hate to think of someone sobbing in a corner and clutching the box of an ineligible Monogram 1/72 B-36 Peacemaker (let alone the ultra-rare HPH models 1:48th version).

Figures are another area where a height minimum could be used, with a waiver for it's equivalent if the figure is not standing upright (wargamers often specify height to eye level to allow for fancy headgear, but let's not be speciesist against aliens who may lack eyes, or have multiple sets).  While I have some figures which possibly qualify on scale but are disqualified by obscenity, I also have Fantasy humanoids (e.g. giants) and alien critters in about 1:56th scale which would match (or exceed) a 120mm human.

Cheers,

M

[tcoat]

[armornutii]

Nov 13, 2023 6:15:25 GMT -5 moramartht said:

Sci-Fi: while this is difficult to set a rule on as most subjects are ficticious a recommendation is 1/350 or larger. I think I can allow anything bigger than 1/72 without incuring to much grief.

May I suggest that for (at least) Sci-Fi/Fantasy and Miscellaneous/Not Otherwise Classified (Edifices?) you abandon scales and set minimum critical dimensions; length, height, width. diameter for example, where meeting any one of which will qualify the build.  Scale could then become an advisory, rather than a definition.   "Miscellaneous" could then include subjects which otherwise might fit in other groups but don't fit the specifications, I'd hate to think of someone sobbing in a corner and clutching the box of an ineligible Monogram 1/72 B-36 Peacemaker (let alone the ultra-rare HPH models 1:48th version).

Figures are another area where a height minimum could be used, with a waiver for it's equivalent if the figure is not standing upright (wargamers often specify height to eye level to allow for fancy headgear, but let's not be speciesist against aliens who may lack eyes, or have multiple sets).  While I have some figures which possibly qualify on scale but are disqualified by obscenity, I also have Fantasy humanoids (e.g. giants) and alien critters in about 1:56th scale which would match (or exceed) a 120mm human.

Cheers,

M

    Thanks for your input M, as I stated in the guidelines I'm not very knowledgeable in the popular Sci-Fi scales. I requested that the individual builder use their judgement on bringing a subject to the GB. We all probably agree that a 72nd scale X-Wing in real life wouldn't be much bigger than a 48th F-16, which doesn't " fit" the criteria IMO of a large scale.
      I also agree that a 72nd scale B-36 is a massive aricraft, and in this case IF someone wanted to do a 48th scale I would probably allow it. However the jist isn't what kit in what scale takes up the most real estate, but more of bringing the larger scale up front.
      I understand that there are some very large creatures and humanoids in the Warhammer and gamer scales. I do not discount the amount of detail and work that goes into finishing IMO they are still small in my idea of this GB.
     I don't like to deter folks from being a part of this community however If I start modifying this GB to much there is a risk that it will just become thread fodder.
    I appreciate your input thank you.  Please bring your measurements for the items you would like to enter and lets see if we can't work this out. Sci-Fi, is very subjective.
      

[armornutii]

   Perhaps to help those with questions about " large scale" Sci-Fi or figures, my minds eye focused on something like the old " Wierdo's", ex Freddy Flameout, that said if dimensions can be provided to help me get a mental picture perhaps I will allow the entry.
     Original guidelines in begining post will remain as published.

[chromdome35]

Would that 1/15th Space Shuttle qualify?

[armornutii]

Nov 12, 2023 22:15:16 GMT -5 armornutii said:

   After reviewing my guidelines, AAANNND given the avaiability of the really big scales, 1/35th isn't much bigger than 1/32.......Welcome aboard Stik...er Stiks friend  .
  
       So to be fair I will edit my guidelines to reflect the allowance of 1/32nd aircraft into th BSGB.

  Hey Stik, so is " your friend onboard with an aircraft? Please let me know so I can get you....er your friend...on the roster.

[armornutii]

Nov 13, 2023 9:52:31 GMT -5 chromdome35 said:

Would that 1/15th Space Shuttle qualify?

   Glad you asked Chrome, I was wondering if thise fellas wanted to participate.
     I believe that in scale a 1/15 Space Shuttle truely fits the bill. Given the amount of creative work required to refurbish, I would be happy to allow it into the GB.
       

[stikpusher]

Nov 13, 2023 9:52:42 GMT -5 armornutii said:

Nov 12, 2023 22:15:16 GMT -5 armornutii said:

   After reviewing my guidelines, AAANNND given the avaiability of the really big scales, 1/35th isn't much bigger than 1/32.......Welcome aboard Stik...er Stiks friend  .
  
       So to be fair I will edit my guidelines to reflect the allowance of 1/32nd aircraft into th BSGB.

  Hey Stik, so is " your friend onboard with an aircraft? Please let me know so I can get you....er your friend...on the roster.

Put me down as TBD for now... I'll partake... just done know how busy the new year looks modeling wise so far.

[armornutii]

   Welcome aboard the slow boat to big builds Carlsos LOL. Got ya on the tally. As soon as you know let me know and I'll let the world know LOL. Thanks.

[moramartht]

However the jist isn't what kit in what scale takes up the most real estate, but more of bringing the larger scale up front.

Now I understand.  The techniques for the larger scale (lower ratio numbers) can differ drastically for those required by smaller scales, particularly for figures where the paint application must be much more subtle.  Even if you eased the 120mm requirement down to 1/16th scale (where there are plenty of reasonably-priced plastic kits available) I'm not sure I could do a decent job.  But given my failure to complete most of the group builds I initially have enthusiasm for, I doubt my absence will be of any consequence.

Regards,

M

[keavdog]

Nov 12, 2023 17:20:15 GMT -5 tcoat said:

Nov 12, 2023 16:28:30 GMT -5 armornutii said:

  BUMP for any one with a Big Scale kit they may want to use for this GB.

Does this count? it is all I have.

Man that's a really cool kit.

[tcoat]

Nov 13, 2023 19:49:21 GMT -5 keavdog said:

Nov 12, 2023 17:20:15 GMT -5 tcoat said:

Does this count? it is all I have.

Man that's a really cool kit.

Picked it up out of a hobby shop clearance bin for $5 when I was in Vegas once. Apparently the individual gun kits are very popular with the RC plane crowd but this kit is extremely rare. Scalemates doesn't even have much info on it.

[project510]

So who is designing the GB avitar. Cant wait to start!

[armornutii]

Nov 13, 2023 19:33:50 GMT -5 moramartht said:

However the jist isn't what kit in what scale takes up the most real estate, but more of bringing the larger scale up front.

Now I understand.  The techniques for the larger scale (lower ratio numbers) can differ drastically for those required by smaller scales, particularly for figures where the paint application must be much more subtle.  Even if you eased the 120mm requirement down to 1/16th scale (where there are plenty of reasonably-priced plastic kits available) I'm not sure I could do a decent job.  But given my failure to complete most of the group builds I initially have enthusiasm for, I doubt my absence will be of any consequence.

Regards,

M

    I appreciate your input M, if ya feel like hopping onboard please let me know and I will gladly put ya on the roster. Feel free to hit me with any questions and there is a good chance as this thing gets underway I can be persuaded to bend the guidelines. After all this is just a hobby. When you decside lets talk about comoarisons to a scale I can picture. Hope you get the urge to jump in. This GB is specifically designed for the slowest builder...me being the slowest.... to complete something. Looking forward to wearing ya down LOL.
     By the way I thought that 120mm was 1/16th....all of the armor builds are in 1/16th some with figures so those DEFENITLY fit the guidelines.....how many can I put ya down for?

[armornutii]

Nov 13, 2023 22:38:29 GMT -5 project510 said:

So who is designing the GB avitar. Cant wait to start!

   Great question project, I have to look back at my PMs as a name was given of someone who might be able to come uo with something. Life got in my way, settling down again but been hectic.
     No excuse for not following up my bad. Also I'm not sure how to do it so it will have to be outsourced. Any suggestions?
      Hold fast good sir January will be here befor ya know it. I should be able to start my entry in my brand new home....equipped with a brand new man cave.

[mrt51]

Yep I'm in with a 1/16 Takom jeep and etc.

[armornutii]

  In like flynn Terry, welcome

[mrt51]

Nov 14, 2023 8:25:55 GMT -5 armornutii said:

  In like flynn Terry, welcome

added some pictures to previous post.

[moramartht]

By the way I thought that 120mm was 1/16th....all of the armor builds are in 1/16th some with figures so those DEFENITLY fit the guidelines...

The Miniatures Page has 120mm as 1:13th scale, with 1:16th coming in at 100.6mm.  I thought it was 1:15 and a bit scale.  It may be if you measure to eye level or the top of the head, or if you go for the average hight of a male human (5ft 8inches) or the easier 6ft...
If I participated I don't think I'd go for a stand-alone figure, more likely a SF scratch build (flying/floating/hovering?) in 1:35th-1:24th scale if that is permissible?

Regards,

M

[armornutii]

Nov 14, 2023 20:09:57 GMT -5 moramartht said:

By the way I thought that 120mm was 1/16th....all of the armor builds are in 1/16th some with figures so those DEFENITLY fit the guidelines...

The Miniatures Page has 120mm as 1:13th scale, with 1:16th coming in at 100.6mm.  I thought it was 1:15 and a bit scale.  It may be if you measure to eye level or the top of the head, or if you go for the average hight of a male human (5ft 8inches) or the easier 6ft...
If I participated I don't think I'd go for a stand-alone figure, more likely a SF scratch build (flying/floating/hovering?) in 1:35th-1:24th scale if that is permissible?

Regards,

M

   Sci- Fi scratchbuild is most definitly welcome. And given the size of some of the objects 1/35 or 24th would be most excellent. Let me know what you choose to do and I'll tack ya in the roster.

[project510]

Nov 14, 2023 0:07:38 GMT -5 armornutii said:

Nov 13, 2023 22:38:29 GMT -5 project510 said:

So who is designing the GB avitar. Cant wait to start!

   Great question project, I have to look back at my PMs as a name was given of someone who might be able to come uo with something. Life got in my way, settling down again but been hectic.
     No excuse for not following up my bad. Also I'm not sure how to do it so it will have to be outsourced. Any suggestions?
      Hold fast good sir January will be here befor ya know it. I should be able to start my entry in my brand new home....equipped with a brand new man cave.

Wish I could be more help but... I have not used photoshop since I was in college HA!

[Real G]

I definitely want in on this GB, so I’ll throw in with… Giant Robo. Such a fitting name and fitting subject for this GB! The kit is by the GoodSmile Company, and it was reimagined by Makoto Kobayashi, the same guy who designed the monstrous Super ZZ Gundam that I built over in the sci-fi section. This isn’t Johnny Socko’s flying robot kids! This is very Giant. And very Robo. And very Makoto Kobayashi.

Pics soon.