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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 7, 2024 14:01:44 GMT -5
After last night of sanding and filling with CA:
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 7, 2024 14:04:15 GMT -5
I have also begun addressing the fill work for the bottom deflector-supporting piece. Each one is different from the other as a probably result of design requirements. Initially the bottom hull was removable: battery storage! I enjoy the sanding and shaping. The difficulty is in the final textures and the blending work itself is where trial, error and experience come into play. I believe that’s why this simple kit is a touchstone piece for plastic model kit construction. I’m sure there must be an aircraft equivalent. Perhaps an armor equivalent as well. Is there?
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 7, 2024 14:06:06 GMT -5
One more brutal closeup to show the work I’m doing on each side:
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Post by stikpusher on Feb 7, 2024 15:12:43 GMT -5
Build a Starfleet Ark
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Post by lyle on Feb 7, 2024 19:30:05 GMT -5
Nice detail work.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 7, 2024 23:41:41 GMT -5
Admiral Carlos Khan and Admiral Lyle! Thank you!
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 8, 2024 0:28:03 GMT -5
NO PRIZE! What kind of bike? Where is he?
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Post by handiabled on Feb 8, 2024 1:53:27 GMT -5
Enterprise is coming along really well Bruce. Shatner is on a 1966 Montesa La Cross 250 if I were to guess somewhere in California.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 8, 2024 1:57:41 GMT -5
Enterprise is coming along really well Bruce. Shatner is on a 1966 Montesa La Cross 250 if I were to guess somewhere in California. Wow! Perfect score!!! Mulholland Drive, in Los Angeles, but somewhere in California also works!!!!
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Post by 406 Silverado on Feb 8, 2024 6:27:11 GMT -5
I have also begun addressing the fill work for the bottom deflector-supporting piece. Each one is different from the other as a probably result of design requirements. Initially the bottom hull was removable: battery storage! I enjoy the sanding and shaping.The difficulty is in the final textures and the blending work itself is where trial, error and experience come into play. I believe that’s why this simple kit is a touchstone piece for plastic model kit construction. I’m sure there must be an aircraft equivalent. Perhaps an armor equivalent as well. Is there? I've gotten to where I like the "bodywork" aspect of model building, particularly on auto models. I used to hate it but have come to enjoy shaping and joining things together in a seamless manner. A little time-consuming but when everything comes together it's a good feeling to see the results of all the work that was put into something like this. Simple aircraft kits: Tamiya Armor??........
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Post by lyle on Feb 8, 2024 7:16:35 GMT -5
I have also begun addressing the fill work for the bottom deflector-supporting piece. Each one is different from the other as a probably result of design requirements. Initially the bottom hull was removable: battery storage! I enjoy the sanding and shaping.The difficulty is in the final textures and the blending work itself is where trial, error and experience come into play. I believe that’s why this simple kit is a touchstone piece for plastic model kit construction. I’m sure there must be an aircraft equivalent. Perhaps an armor equivalent as well. Is there? I've gotten to where I like the "bodywork" aspect of model building, particularly on auto models. I used to hate it but have come to enjoy shaping and joining things together in a seamless manner. A little time-consuming but when everything comes together it's a good feeling to see the results of all the work that was put into something like this. Simple aircraft kits: Tamiya Armor??........ “Armor…?” Silly boy. The genre of kings! im getting to where I do not dislike filling and sanding as much. It is another story doing canopies these dats.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 8, 2024 13:31:26 GMT -5
406! Lyle! Thank you both for your support (my iPhone hopefully suggests “prayers” instead of “support,” but no matter). It’s a beautiful and sunny and cold day in Los Angeles. I love this city as much as I despise it. My adult memories were formed here. I adopted this place. Sometimes I feel building models is my last tenuous link to childhood memories which are themselves fading away only to barest outlines now. This happens to us all, I know. “Wool gathering” is the term for this, I think. For others, it is nostalgia. Reminisces. All those big ten dollar words available for the same price as the simple ones. Wow, where am I going with all of this? Thanks, gratitude and more importantly my respect to all who fill these boards with projects! You stir the better parts of the pot, if I may use a metaphor. You make the sanding worthwhile. Cheers.
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Post by stikpusher on Feb 8, 2024 13:33:21 GMT -5
“Armor…?” Silly boy. The genre of kings!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Feb 8, 2024 15:54:22 GMT -5
I don’t know what exactly I enjoy about modeling I just know it relaxes me and it’s certainly my happy place. For the most part, even if things go wrong. One thing I used to hate but now really enjoy is decals. Still not great at them but I find a good decal session to be a most effective way to zone out. At any rate this thread has been wonderful and I’ve greatly enjoyed following along the way as you massage the details and create your enterprise.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 8, 2024 21:09:29 GMT -5
Kyle!
Thank you for what you wrote. I keep meaning to ask you about being in Indiana. My second art show in college was a group show at Purdue. I drove down there from Evanston in a buddy's hot rodded Studebaker. I don't know how he got ahold of a classic car for a weekend drive but he did. Wild, juvenile times. Purdue was fun: loud and vibrant and alive in ways that Evanston was not or never would be.
Back to the topic if there is one (there is): What I missed most about building a model was being amongst other builders. There's something about that kind of kinship that really makes sanding and scraping worthwhile. I really appreciate what you wrote because frankly the decaling stage is one of the most interesting and I've been constantly going back and forth in mind about what to do here with the Enterprise. The decals are not only old but they aren't the right fonts either so I could stick with the out of box idea and just use 'em as is or I could shoot the lock off my wallet and buy new decals for 18 bucks plus shipping (which is more than the kit cost me) and have no worries. I actually have been perstering Admiral Lyle to see if he could print me a set of registry decals. Let's see what the Admiral decides.
I feel that zone of modeling helps just exactly the way you described it. I have felt the pull in the wrong direction - towards the overdoing it end of the spectrum - and I am grateful folks like you and others are here to set things aright when I go too far. I know I also write a lot about things that won't be put into the modeling magazine monthlies but I feel that emotions such as they are have to be considered. We have to first and foremost be kind to ourselves and others. We have to learn and make things better whenever possible. This reminds me I need to respond to the Dark Lord Carlos StikPusher Khan Riccardo Montalban Singh about giving over to the dark side!
Carlos!
This is going to happen one day. Every time I see drive wheel assemblies and bogies and whatnot I steer clear but I would like to build an older kit one day. I really would.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Feb 8, 2024 22:23:00 GMT -5
Kyle!
Thank you for what you wrote. I keep meaning to ask you about being in Indiana. My second art show in college was a group show at Purdue. I drove down there from Evanston in a buddy's hot rodded Studebaker. I don't know how he got ahold of a classic car for a weekend drive but he did. Wild, juvenile times. Purdue was fun: loud and vibrant and alive in ways that Evanston was not or never would be.
Back to the topic if there is one (there is): What I missed most about building a model was being amongst other builders. There's something about that kind of kinship that really makes sanding and scraping worthwhile. I really appreciate what you wrote because frankly the decaling stage is one of the most interesting and I've been constantly going back and forth in mind about what to do here with the Enterprise. The decals are not only old but they aren't the right fonts either so I could stick with the out of box idea and just use 'em as is or I could shoot the lock off my wallet and buy new decals for 18 bucks plus shipping (which is more than the kit cost me) and have no worries. I actually have been perstering Admiral Lyle to see if he could print me a set of registry decals. Let's see what the Admiral decides.
I feel that zone of modeling helps just exactly the way you described it. I have felt the pull in the wrong direction - towards the overdoing it end of the spectrum - and I am grateful folks like you and others are here to set things aright when I go too far. I know I also write a lot about things that won't be put into the modeling magazine monthlies but I feel that emotions such as they are have to be considered. We have to first and foremost be kind to ourselves and others. We have to learn and make things better whenever possible. This reminds me I need to respond to the Dark Lord Carlos StikPusher Khan Riccardo Montalban Singh about giving over to the dark side!
Carlos!
This is going to happen one day. Every time I see drive wheel assemblies and bogies and whatnot I steer clear but I would like to build an older kit one day. I really would. Purdue is an excellent college and I’ve had some good fun there. Same with Ball State in Muncie and IU Bloomington. I had friends at all of them. Now I just go to those places to work but as I work nights I know they’re still lively spots. I agree it’s nice to talk about the human side of the hobby that we all share. You fine folks are the best part of this wonderful hobby after all. I also have not dabbled in any armor subjects but seeing builds from the talented folks like Carlos definitely inspire me to give one a try myself. I will continue to watch and enjoy your excellent thread.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 9, 2024 0:21:03 GMT -5
Kyle! Thanks so much, my friend. Sincerely.
I added two more coats of CA to the area where the hull joins the deflector. I know CA doesn't really like the cold; it's taking a long time for each coat to dry. I finally was able to rough sand and I am going to call it a night. Not a very long progress report tonight. I have an early start tomorrow.
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Post by stikpusher on Feb 9, 2024 11:58:14 GMT -5
Bruce do you ever use accelerator with CA glue? If not, you should try it sometime.
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Post by dukemaddog on Feb 9, 2024 14:18:00 GMT -5
Bruce, while I have not been commenting; I've been following a long closely and been thoroughly enjoying watching this come together. I even learned a couple new techniques from what you have been doing. Watching you strive for a better look that is closer to perfection keeps me motivated to try and do the same with my models too. You are an amazing modeler who keeps going no matter what.
Keep them coming Bruce! I'm watching this close and enjoying every post. Looking forward to the next one.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 10, 2024 16:56:55 GMT -5
Carlos, I use Zap! Kicker bought from Everett’s Models in Santa Monica (sadly closed) on many resin garage kit projects. I don’t have any at the moment as I am a bit skint and modeling budget doesn’t have the funds to pick up a bottle. I think I could use styrene shavings or baking soda as a filler/accelerator. I’m not sure. Do you know? Duke Mark, I have learned so much from you over the years I am deeply touched by what you wrote. I spoke with my buddy Bryan and when you are ready to photograph “800,” let me know. We will plan how to proceed with set up. Maybe it’s time to do an interview! Sincere thanks to you. As always—to anyone following this thread. I’m doing an honest build of a classic kit with as much information as possible. Often it’s not possible to start with the most expensive or advanced kit when starting out, so building an old chestnut can and will provide as much or even more building satisfaction as the new version but without the pressure to handle large parts in larger quantities. More ref
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Post by stikpusher on Feb 10, 2024 21:49:50 GMT -5
I have heard that baking soda will make any CA rock hard. I only tried it once and didn't care for it as an accelerator. If there is a Hobby Lobby near you, they do carry accelerator at a reasonable price.
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Post by lyle on Feb 11, 2024 9:47:03 GMT -5
I have heard that baking soda will make any CA rock hard. I only tried it once and didn't care for it as an accelerator. If there is a Hobby Lobby near you, they do carry accelerator at a reasonable price. Youtube videos aside, yes, it will cause CA to set up quite hard and quickly. Not very smooth, though. Usually must be sanded.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 11, 2024 10:56:32 GMT -5
Carlos and Lyle!
Thankee kindly, gentlemen. I’ll have to give this a whirl on the nacelle molding dimples perhaps - those marks are a bit deeper than a seam fill.
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 13, 2024 2:25:11 GMT -5
I did some work tonight. I hope to photograph this tomorrow!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Feb 13, 2024 10:14:45 GMT -5
I did some work tonight. I hope to photograph this tomorrow! Can’t wait!!
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 13, 2024 13:01:34 GMT -5
Last night’s progress Scratches, glue blobs everywhere! But the forms look better. There are side seams to fill. The bottom grappler form has been the most out of alignment of the three. The difficulty with the right and the left sides is the size - there’s a .5 cm difference in size at least between them - These are areas that still need attention - glue artifacts, scratches, side seam - This will be the next area to address - You see the seam where the halves meet. I need to add a bit of fill.
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Post by stikpusher on Feb 13, 2024 13:15:10 GMT -5
ohhhhh... filling that seam won't be a major problem, but blending it in smooth will take some very tight work!
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Post by speedgraflex on Feb 13, 2024 13:18:50 GMT -5
ohhhhh... filling that seam won't be a major problem, but blending it in smooth will take some very tight work! Thanks, Stikpusher! One thing I know I gotta reorient the hull so it’s upside down to let gravity help out - Let’s see how close we can get to this - photography credit: Dane Penland, NASM
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Post by kyledehart5 on Feb 13, 2024 18:56:02 GMT -5
Excellent. Really shaping up. I have no doubt you’ll tackle that seam with no problems.
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Post by Ceaser_Sa1ad on Feb 15, 2024 23:46:13 GMT -5
I saw this over at SPAM but I think this is going to turn out great! Good luck with your seem work, this kit is chock full of them.
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