SturmTiger (V2)

[noll]

I started on the Tamiya SturmTiger a a while ago, and then took a break from it for a while, as I had just made a (also Tamiya) Tiger I, and didn't want to assemble ANOTHER 200ish tiger track links for a bit.

Anyway, I have recently restarted work on it, and am hoping to make it be rusting in a ditch/swamp somewhere after being shot by a high caliber gun (maybe an IS?) a few times in the side. It is only my 7th model, and I still have a lot to learn .

I will be posting pics of the build (Unfortunately I didn't take any before today - I am pretty much done construction), and any tips or advice would be much appreciated. I do have a limited budget though, as I am still a student.

Here are the pics:























-Oliver

[panzerjager.]

The holes looks too big to me...how much is the diameter? It should match the "killer gun" caliber (152 mm /35 = 4,3 mm ?).
Darío

[tobias5555]

Looking very knocked out

[noll]

Aug 28, 2012 12:07:17 GMT -5 panzerjager. said:

The holes looks too big to me...how much is the diameter? It should match the "killer gun" caliber (152 mm /35 = 4,3 mm ?).
Darío

I was thinking the same thing just now . I'll probably make them 3.4mm to replicate the IS's 122mm (with some putty).

[TRM]

Looking good Oliver!! Like all the destruction!

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Aug 28, 2012 14:05:51 GMT -5 TRM said:

Looking good Oliver!! Like all the destruction!

Thanks! All I have left to do before painting now is to wait for the putty to dry, re-drill the holes (1/35 scale IS shots) and figure out how to simulate welding (which I have never tried before).

the welding will be for the cross-bars on the hatch and for a patch somewhere.

[robbo]

Blimey, now that has been beaten up. Should look the bees kness with some paint on it

[deafpanzer]

Looking real good! Echo guys comment about the size of holes... Strumtiger armor was very thick. I look forward to see updates on this.

[Deleted]

Hiya Oliver, looking good and if your going to resize the damage, even better!

That what this site is all about... freindly advice to help you build a stunning model

[noll]

Hmmm... I have done some thinking (and weld imitating ) and have realized that the forward-most shell would have impacted at least one 380mm shell (stored on racks inside the cabin), which would have made a pretty boom, to say the least. Now I need to blow open the cabin, which shouldn't be too hard, as the kit came with a mostly full interior (no engine, though ). I just need to add some bulkheads to separate the engine from the crew compartment.

I also have done some research, and have figured out that the Kv-2's 152mm gun (roughly 5mm in 1/35), which fired both HE and AP shells, was more than capable of penetrating the SturmTiger's side armor (add a 152mm HE shell to the above mix, and 0.o ).

Now to simulate a few hundred KGs of high explosive going off inside a small space... As soon as I take my dog for a walk that is...

- Oliver

[panzerjager.]

Look the big hole in this T-34 turret ...my theory of "same diameter of the gun caliper" was destroyed



Darío

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Aug 28, 2012 20:32:34 GMT -5 panzerjager. said:

Look the big hole in this T-34 turret ...my theory of "same diameter of the gun caliper" was destroyed



Darío

it's ok If that's what an 88 will do to a T-34, I wonder what the KV-2's 152 would do to the side of a SturmTiger!

Thanks for the pic; it looks like it will be useful!

-Oliver

[noll]

Aug 29, 2012 3:09:42 GMT -5 @brutus1175 said:

that's the beauty of this hobby, you can have a pretty liberal artistic license, as long as it's kept relative. And this is the best modelling site as far as I'm concerned, nothing but constructive comments here. While you can't have a 30" hole in the side of a Morser from a pistol, all you have to do is google "WW II armor damage" or something like that, and some of the REAL images you find, you'll turn your head and perk your ears like a curious German Shepard and go "huh?? How'd THAT happen ??" In other words, keep on keepin on.

Thanks for the advice! I am currently looking for pics of utterly destroyed tanks

Also, relating the your last bit, here's a pic that I have no idea how the heck it (the tank) got there:

[WigWag Workshop]

Looking forward to see what you do next with this build. I plan on doing a similar build in the future.

-Steven

[noll]

I'm currently working on hobby-knifing the heck out of the sturmie - I'll post some pics when I'm done (after I get back from my job at around 4ish).

[noll]

Here are some more pics of how it is so far:











I still need to damage the interior a bit more, make a divider behind the crew compartment to hide the fact that there is no engine, and figure out how to make some good looking scratches/dents/scrapes.

Any help with those 3 things would be appreciated.

-Oliver

[406 Silverado]

Nice ref images and yes armor plate will crack and you will find chunks of metal missing.

Nice chopping on the Sturmie. One thing to do now is clean the edges. The jagged edges are too much. You want smother straighter edging where the metal cracked.

Looking great and I'm loving what's being done.

[noll]

Sorry for the lack of activity guys! I haven't been able to get any foam for the dio until a couple of days ago, and then we had a scheduled power out ( to replace the local lines), I haven't been able to post anything.

I have now cut the wood and foam ,and am not sure what to do next. it is 15in X 15 in and 2in thick. I also have more so i can build up a layer or 2. I'll post some pics in a min or two (I don't want to disturb my dog, who is lying by my chair ).

-Oliver

[noll]

Here are some pics:













Any suggestions about how to continue would be appreciated, as would any ideas for implements to cut the foam.

-Oliver

[panzerjager.]

If I not misunderstand that base will be your KO'ed SturmT groundwork?

There is a rule in dioramas: never put anything paralell to the base edges I'm not able to explain, because my lenguage, but Mr. Sheperd Paine explain it in his book "How to build Dioramas".

TAke a look at the links I put in this section of my website:

sites.google.com/site/panzerlinks/tecnicas

Look for the tittle "Dioramas: Bases" then click the links.

Hope it helps

Darío

[406 Silverado]

Dario is correct, you want to keep away from aligning things parralell. If you have Mig's new book, FAQ2, it explains and sows do's and don'ts. What you can do is cut the higher section at an angle and it will help that out. If you look at my burnt out Jagdtiger I have done similar with a slightly raised roadbed.

[robbo]

Sounds like your already getting some sound advice in here

[noll]

Here are some more pics of what I've done so far:











-Oliver

[Deleted]

Holy Cow, That tank must have been hit by a naval round! The crew never saw that coming LOL! Nice job, the diorama looks like it will have a lot of drama. Looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

[noll]

Just a small update: there has been a big storm where I live, and we have no power at the moment (I'm writing this from the library). I probably won't be able to post any more updates until tomorrow.

-Oliver

[406 Silverado]

Sorry to hear about the storm, be safe.

Nw that we see the model on the base we (I) can see the actual size of the base. Unless your going to add another vehicle and maybe figures, I think the base is a bit too big for the model. There is a lot of empty space to cover. if possible, maybe reduce the base size to maybe three inches on all sides of the model. keep the road bed and ditch, but reduce the rest. This way you won't have to fill all that empty space and can show off the model and it won't get lost. Just my thoughts, but if your happy with it then go for it.

Here is an image of my JT and you can see what I mean about the area around the model.

[noll]

Sept 8, 2012 14:21:49 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

Sorry to hear about the storm, be safe.

Now that we see the model on the base we (I) can see the actual size of the base. Unless your going to add another vehicle and maybe figures, I think the base is a bit too big for the model. There is a lot of empty space to cover. if possible, maybe reduce the base size to maybe three inches on all sides of the model. keep the road bed and ditch, but reduce the rest. This way you won't have to fill all that empty space and can show off the model and it won't get lost. Just my thoughts, but if your happy with it then go for it.

Here is an image of my JT and you can see what I mean about the area around the model.

Ok - thanks for the advice (as you may have guessed from me typing this, the power's back on ).

I will definitely reduce the base, unless I can figure out a way to put this in (yes, I know my room is a tip ) :









What do you think I should do?

-Oliver

[parkadge]

First of all- well done the Sturmtiger looks great.
As to what you should do with it I would place it on a smaller base with maybe just a few figures

[noll]

I'll post another update and some more pics soon.


-Oliver

[noll]

sorry that I haven't posted anything for a while - I have a bad cold atm. I will try to post some pics tomorrow though (I have the dio's basic groundwork done now, and next need to add some sand).

I have also decided that the SturmTiger will have been destroyed in a desert somewhere, and left abandoned there for years.

-Oliver