Since everyone else seems to be doing one finished

[wbill76]

Looks good under paint Mark!

[bigjohn]

That Zim looks even better under a coat of paint!

[sfcmikej]

Mark

Way to stick with it. Zimm and paint look mighty fine.

Mike

[reserve]

Thank you kindly everyone

This is a try at replicting turret # 312 belonging to SptzAbt 505. The pattern laid down is as close an approximation as my limited airbrush skills and reference pictures (more the former) will allow















And now a question for those who are better than me with an airbrush, which I expect is most everyone. I could not eliminate overspray, and it got bad in places as can be seen










Paint about the consistency of milk and using about 18 psi gave these results. How can I improve this, and what's the best method for covering uglies such as seen in the last two pics?


Regards,
Mark

[wbill76]

Are you using a double or single action airbrush? If double, then you may wish to reduce your PSI a little bit and work with your needle/trigger to create a tighter pattern and less overspray. The easiest way to reduce the overspray you've got now is to dry-brush with the base coat to blend in and fade the overspray into the basecoat without breaking out the AB and counter-spraying to blend. The pattern looks good to me Mark, very nice!

[Deleted]

great stuff the zim looks fab

[fightnjoe]

never had luck fixing overspray. all my work has some. thought it was a normal deal. honestly yours looks better than mine normally does. nice work on the pattern. i know i would have screwed that up.



joe

[wouter]

bummer the hot chisel method didn't work out mate, but you made a great choice with the Atak zimm!

Nice paintwork as well, camo looks great!

Don't mind the overspray btw, it will tone down with further weathering, and besides, in reality the camo was applied by the maintenance crew using airbrushes and they would have had some overspray as well

Cheers

[bbd468]

Hey Mark, Im lovin the camo buddy! Too bad about the overspray but nothin you cant set straight. The Zimm looks awesome as well. Great job fella!

Gary

[bullardino]

Bill is correct, the only way to reduce or avoid overspray is to thin paint and reduce psi. Some times overspray can depend on the hose being dirty, so wiping it with a lint free cloth or some strong tissue paper can help.

The Tiggie is a treat and that little oversray will fade under filters and weathering

[deafpanzer]

Beautiful camo job! Echo guys comments here... dark washes will tone it down but first do an overspray with very heavily thinned base coat. Just like I did to my Tiggy if you recall...

[bigjohn]

I think it looks great. I agree with wouts, filters and further weathering will blend it in.

[armorguy]

It looks great and the overspray will disappear after the washes and weathering.

[reserve]

Bill-Thanks for the advice I'll surely follow it. I used a single action for this, perhaps I better grow a set and start using the double action gathering dust on the shelf

Pete, Gary, Luigi, Andy, John, AG-Thanks for the observations and nice comments

Joe-I have no doubt that if you tackled something like this it'd turn out just fne

Wouts-If I were smart I'd have just gotten the Atak stuff in the first place but I guess I had to try different options to satisfy my curiosity. The good news is the hot iron attempt did not ruin the model

Once again thanks all for the kind comments. There's not been much bench time available lately so no updates but I felt compelled to drop this in since you all came forward to help out

Regards,
Mark

[reserve]

Well, tried the fix it methods and I thinned the paint too much but that was easy to fix I am doing alot of fixing on this one.





Once the Andy method of thin base coat has time to dry overnight it'll be time for the floor goo





DA airbrushes take some getting used to

Regards,
Mark

[wbill76]

Looking good Mark! DA does take some practice and fine-tuning but worth it...just remember, it's all in how you hold your tongue while you're spraying.

[reserve]

Afternoon guys

Bill-thanks and I'll try the tounge thing should work as long as I don't bite it off

Smoke Wagon-thanks also for the kind words. After working with the Atak zim I don't think I'll be doing the burner method again, the stuff just looks so much better than the burner results.


Well, you were all correct overspray is fading as this continues. I shamelessly stole Bill's dot filter technique and applied it to the vehicle











Though I really like the tone down effect, I may have overdone the dot filter (by the way Bill I really like this technique thanks for posting it). I'll re-evaluate when I get back to the bench. Thanks also Wingy for the color recommendations


Regards,
Mark

[deafpanzer]

WOW! The over-spraying really helped. Now your Tiggy is purring aloud. I really like the camo!

[wbill76]

My pleasure Mark, glad it's helped you out with your Tiggy! Looking very good in terms of the blending and fading, always a tough thing to do with the zim pattern.

[fightnjoe]

impressive. very impressive. love the look.



joe

[reserve]

Thanks guys

Bill, Andy-Would not be where it is without youse guys input

Joe-this one seems to be turning out OK in spite of my fumbling


All right, fading done, pinwash applied, flatcoat on. Sorry for the pics my work light died last night














A bit of chipping and dirt is next


Regards,
Mark

[Deleted]

Mark , you've been really busy since my last visit . Good suggestions from the guys . Only thing i was wondering is what kind of paint are you using ? When i use acrylics for painting camo i always have to clean the tip often . Seems like the tip of the needle will dry and build up paint on it and cause loss of control of the spray width . Also try gettting closer to your painted surface so that the spray pattern is narrower .Kinda like a shot gun pattern getting wider the further away the target is . When you get closer you dont want your paint overly thinned either .It'll blow off to the sides .
I built 312 from the Tamiya kit . I was told on another site that the barrel was replaced at some point and left in the primer color . Did you find this to be true in your research ? I painted the barrel in red oxide color and later was told it should be gray ...i left it as is .
Not saying to change yours . Looks great as is . The original barrel must of been painted as the rest of the tank .
One thing about air brushing is getting a technique down that feels good for you and then being able to work with it . Everyone has a slightly diff method and they work out methods to cope with it . I used a single action for years and still think the results of camo with it were just as good as a double action that i use now . Its just a pain to stop and adjust the needle , imo, with a single action . Kinda like driving a stick shift compared to and automatic . In the end you still get there .
She's looking great and i want to see more !

[reserve]

Nemo-I can guess how, with all the new folks coupled with the format change I can hardly keep up with everything my ownself. Good to see all the recent members I think. Concerning the level of talent here, such company is a great thing to have when doing something like this as one gets to learn a few new techinques that enhance outcomes so you see I'm not really brave as all that. Thanks for the assessment, glad it passed the eyeball test

Carl-Yeah, after the zim debacle I kind of wanted to make some progress on this one so I rationed time accordingly. I'm using MM enamels on this one, my paint of choice as A. it's readily available in my area and B. I encountered the same trouble you described in airbrushing acryllics. I found it onerous to have to clean the tip every minute and a half, especially with the DA as it's a pain to clear and clean.

My research on 505's 312 was not a fruitful one, I found just one picture, the one with the vehicle passing the guy on the horse which I'm sure you've seen. Due to this the camo pattern on the model was largely extrapolated. I found nothing related to main gun change but given its area of service I'd not be surprised it it wore out a tube or two, and since I found such a wealth of information with one photo I guess I'm hardly qualified to say yes or no to the question. Thanks for the look, glad it meets your approval as well.

Regards,
Mark

[bbd468]

Mark, your Tiger is looking pretty damn AWESOME! Great job buddy. I did Abt.505 KingTiger several years ago and used basicly the same type camo pattern. They would looks sweet setting next too each other!

Gary

[fightnjoe]

looks very sharp from where i am.




joe

[DieselRocket.]

I think the Zim turned out great, and EXCELLENT choice in paint schemes. This is one of my absolute favorite Tigers. I think it is going to finish out to a superb replica.

[bigjohn]

Man that Tiger is looking sharp buddy!

[Deleted]

ey Mark , MM is my paint of choice also . I think that sometimes the facts can get re arranged in someones memory . Its best to go with what you see in an actual photo ..as long as its not a debate about shdes of colors based on a BW photo . Even them old WW II color phot's can be misleading imo .
Looks like the weathering took care of the look of the overspray .
Taking them pics 1/2 inch from the model really magnifies everything dont it .
Looking real well done .

[wbill76]

Making good progress on this one Mark! Looking good and those tools/details are going to dress this one up very nice.

[reserve]

Thanks for all the kind comments guys

At last I'm thru sticking stuff on this, was not sure I'd ever get there




















The DS tracks are great to work with and give the option for an articulated suspension on a base.
Some minor chipping, extra dirt, and figures next.


Regards,
Mark