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Post by Teabone on May 28, 2013 22:47:07 GMT -5
These pictures show my efforts today. I could not get the Elmer's "School" glue to adhere to the seats so I have tried CA glue which is what you see in the rough, tomorrow I will clean these up and see how much trouble I am in. I can never build a kit without some failure along the way and this one has been going to smoothly. In the middle of the seats is the right side headlight which is the clear light. I took the OOB headlight which was solid Styrene molded to resemble the headlight, I drilled it out and filed it and cut it with my scalpel until I had a headlight rim left. I then filled the back part with green stuff and set a number 209 MV lens in it and glued the rim on over it, tedious but I think it came out OK.
Gluing the tissue to the seats went well with my 3 week old CA glue which had started to thicken in the tube as it will do. It is probably my imagination and I need to get an aluminum foil hat but I was kind of thinking that when I blow on the glued tissue it seem to accelerate the glue drying.
Bones
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Post by Teabone on May 28, 2013 22:49:09 GMT -5
And a little closer look.
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Post by Teabone on May 28, 2013 22:52:52 GMT -5
Excellent reference pics AG. Very helpful and ive saved pics to my allied softskins folder. bbd468
It was one of those pure lucky shots if you are talking about those stunning Blackout Lights. I mad a search for blackout lights thinking aw maybe and bingo on e-bay some guy was selling them so I thought I would pass them along.
Bones.
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Post by armorguy on May 29, 2013 3:37:13 GMT -5
Seats and light look perfect Bones !
I've noticed you used the kit support for the canvas roof, but this part is too thick compared with reference pics. Maybe you cover it up with the canvas cover so it won't be necessary to redo this.
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Post by bullardino on May 29, 2013 9:11:08 GMT -5
Sorry for the late feedback, but I've been drawn away from the forum lately... Stunning job, Bones. I really like your upgrades to a Tamiya oldie I've always loved
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Post by deafpanzer on May 29, 2013 12:59:50 GMT -5
Great work on the seats!!!
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 13:28:10 GMT -5
Seats and light look perfect Bones ! I've noticed you used the kit support for the canvas roof, but this part is too thick compared with reference pics. Maybe you cover it up with the canvas cover so it won't be necessary to redo this. Armor Guy
Was not aware of the scale difference on those rods, should have been but was not. I am going to put a cover on but still may change the rods. Thanks for the assist on that its those things particularly on British vehicles that I miss.
Bones
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 13:32:17 GMT -5
Sorry for the late feedback, but I've been drawn away from the forum lately... Stunning job, Bones. I really like your upgrades to a Tamiya oldie I've always loved Luigi
Life takes many turns and twists and it often carries us away from the things we normally do, I thought you had been quite lately. Thanks fro the compliments always re-fuels me, this is a nice kit with great fit. I understand that there are some scale issues with the front end but its good enough for a first one.
Bones
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 13:35:13 GMT -5
Great work on the seats!!! Andy
I'm glad you survived the pitch fork attack and can still type, I'm not sure about the seats yet, I think the edges are a little raged I'm going to post some pics tonight to get some opinions.
Bones.
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Post by armorguy on May 29, 2013 14:38:55 GMT -5
No problem Bones, we're here to help.
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Post by deafpanzer on May 29, 2013 14:41:04 GMT -5
LOL! Yes I am still alive and kicking but I am at work. Maybe things will be different when I get home in an hour...
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 16:36:00 GMT -5
No problem Bones, we're here to help. That sure sounds familiar for some reason, seems when I worked for the state we used to tell people that just before we told them tough luck. They may not be too bad I have got two of the ready for pictures so we can see.
Bones.
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 16:37:29 GMT -5
LOL! Yes I am still alive and kicking but I am at work. Maybe things will be different when I get home in an hour... Andy
If she let you go to work and you lived through the lunch I think you'll be OK for now.
Bones.
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 19:21:21 GMT -5
Here are my attempt to do tissue seats, they require a little more work than I thought they would but that may be affected by the seat design. Cleaning up the extra glue from the backs in a chore, I wonder if PVA would be better but the wetting might be a problem. The rough edges is the thing that concerns me most are these about the same as your would do? Bones.
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 19:23:54 GMT -5
More close ups.
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Post by deafpanzer on May 29, 2013 19:25:09 GMT -5
Same thing happened to my seats for DUWK. I removed the excessive parts then applied more white glue. It helped little but it worked better when I applied very fine super glue at the bottom to hold the tissues from peeling off.
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 19:25:48 GMT -5
And a last one. Bones.
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Post by vlpbruce on May 29, 2013 19:41:53 GMT -5
Looking good Bones, Keep it coming.
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Post by wbill76 on May 29, 2013 20:00:01 GMT -5
Making good progress here Bones! You're not imagining things about the CA setting up faster if you blow on it...CA is a form of resin and it gives off heat as it sets, so blowing on it accelerates the setting process (slightly) by channeling off the heat.
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 23:47:59 GMT -5
Same thing happened to my seats for DUWK. I removed the excessive parts then applied more white glue. It helped little but it worked better when I applied very fine super glue at the bottom to hold the tissues from peeling off. Andy
They are not going to peal off, they will have to be scraped off and I'm not sure they could be sanded back to anything recognizable. I could file them down but then I don't see any real gain for all the effort. I'm going to wait and see if anyone else has any input before I dig the hole any deeper but it seems like I need some method other than CA glue. ArmorGuy mentions Elmer's Wood glue which I haven't tried to see if it adheres better than Elmer's School glue.
Bones.
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 23:51:08 GMT -5
Looking good Bones, Keep it coming. Bruce
Andy thinks I need to do something along the bottoms of the seats, what do you think.
Bones
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Post by Teabone on May 29, 2013 23:56:58 GMT -5
Making good progress here Bones! You're not imagining things about the CA setting up faster if you blow on it...CA is a form of resin and it gives off heat as it sets, so blowing on it accelerates the setting process (slightly) by channeling off the heat. WildBill 76
It is moving right along except for the bottoms of those seats which I'm not sure if I should do something with or say it was a nice try do better next time. What I noticed about the setting of the CA glue was on the gradual side but noticeable. This is good news as I can get ride of the dam tin foil hat.
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Post by vlpbruce on May 30, 2013 7:43:57 GMT -5
Hi Bones, The one time I tried this, I had the same problem. I brushed a thinned coat of acrylic paint over it. The water in the paint softened the glue enough so it stuck nicely. Bruce
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Post by Teabone on May 30, 2013 12:43:37 GMT -5
Hi Bones, The one time I tried this, I had the same problem. I brushed a thinned coat of acrylic paint over it. The water in the paint softened the glue enough so it stuck nicely. Bruce Bruce
What type of glue were you using?? I don't think acrylic glue is going to soften CA glue, part of the problem here is the seat cant be held in your hand or worked with fingers using CA glue. I had to hold the seat parts with forceps and mold the tissue with a toothpick which got difficult when the tissue bulks up on the corners.
Bones
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Post by Teabone on May 30, 2013 15:46:58 GMT -5
I think part of the problem here Bones is that you have tried to cover a square seat with a square piece of tissue instead of cutting the corners out first so you wouldn't have double layers or bunching up ....having said that I'm not sure what the solution is, other than letting the whole thing dry completely and sand it back after - I think a coat of primer after, will show that yer probably there or thereabouts anyhoo and no further work is necessary Yes, I like that line of thinking as being the best way to look at it. When I started to read it I was concerned you were going to suggest I cut each piece of tissue with notches for the corners ha, ha. I'm going to sand on them a bit more, use some Mr. Surfacer 500 on the backs to smooth them out and then paint them and see how bad they really look.
Bones.
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Post by vlpbruce on May 30, 2013 22:39:01 GMT -5
I do not know how to help you with this my friend. When I did it, I used white glue. I really do not know how to fix something put on with CA. I am very sorry.
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Post by Teabone on May 30, 2013 23:14:57 GMT -5
I do not know how to help you with this my friend. When I did it, I used white glue. I really do not know how to fix something put on with CA. I am very sorry. Bruce
I know you would give me the answer if you had it. Thank you at least for your kindly sympathy, I spent some time today sanding, filing and glue touch ups and I think after they are painted they will be passable for my display case if not better, I will post the finished seats to see what you think. I am going to try either PVA or Elmer's carpenter glue nest time, one needs to be able to handle them to get the best fit. I tried the school glue but it would not adhere at all to the styrene.
Bones
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Post by Teabone on May 31, 2013 13:31:29 GMT -5
Today was base color paint, I have been looking for my finish options and fearless (or foolhardy) I have decided to go with the Mickey Mouse pattern so I am going to allow a couple days cure before a coat of ducote and then a day before masking so I might start on some of the Pheasant parts for fill in.
Bones
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Post by bullardino on Jun 1, 2013 7:54:57 GMT -5
Looking forward to seeing some pics of it, Bones
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Post by Teabone on Jun 3, 2013 23:33:46 GMT -5
Here are the Pheasant sprue pics.
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