Knocked out Jagdpanzer Hungary, finished 17-10

[elco]

Hi! Back again, after moving to our new place i couldn't resist to open a box and build something. My hobby room isn't ready yet so i can't paint at this moment

I decided to build the old Dragon's JP, a terrible kit but perfect for what i want. It had to made lot's of changes, cutting, sanding to create the right look besides the structure i made in the panzer plates.

I was inspired by a photo i saw from this knocked out JP in Hungery from the well know Mirko on ML.

Specs:

Dragon's command version Jagdpanzer
Dragon magic tracks
Alu barrel
Trumpeter's Bergepanzer engine
PE from the spare box and some scratch build stuff.

I have limited internet at this moment so 2 pics for now, the rest will follow soon!

The build must represent the last fight for this JP that is already beaten up but still on the move until it is finaly knocked out..

picture Mirko Bayerl, ML forum.

[tobias5555]

Allways cool to see a model build after a real war Picture. Keep on, I´ll watching.

[Leon]

Following with interest Elco

[TRM]

Great inspirational picture and a really nice start to things!! Count me in for this one!!

[wbill76]

Love to see actual photos recreated in scale, looking forward to more on this one!

[Deano]

Ja! im gonna be watching this one closely .... great work on the wreck so far!

[afvfan]

An observation? I don't believe the left track is a complete run as you're modeling it (though you can do it any way you want to ). There'd be no reason for the crew to take the time and make the effort to repair it like that. As it's not on the drive sprocket, it would provide no propulsion and, at best, only help the vehicle pivot on it's remaining track (which it could just as easily do on the remaining wheels). It's hard to see in the picture, but it looks like when the track broke forward motion caused it to run over the loose end as it came off the upper roller. There seems to be another track section sticking out from between the 2nd and 3rd road wheels. Like I said... just an observation....

A couple other observations just for grins... First, I don't know why, but that gun barrel looks exceedingly long. I know, they were. I guess the angle of the pic and the missing tracks and fenders just make it seem huge. And second, am I the only one who thinks that the entire roof is missing off the crew compartment? That dark shadow on top really gives me that impression.

[sturmbird]

Dec 29, 2013 1:26:34 GMT -5 afvfan said:

An observation? I don't believe the left track is a complete run as you're modeling it (though you can do it any way you want to ). There'd be no reason for the crew to take the time and make the effort to repair it like that. As it's not on the drive sprocket, it would provide no propulsion and, at best, only help the vehicle pivot on it's remaining track (which it could just as easily do on the remaining wheels). It's hard to see in the picture, but it looks like when the track broke forward motion caused it to run over the loose end as it came off the upper roller. There seems to be another track section sticking out from between the 2nd and 3rd road wheels. Like I said... just an observation....

A couple other observations just for grins... First, I don't know why, but that gun barrel looks exceedingly long. I know, they were. I guess the angle of the pic and the missing tracks and fenders just make it seem huge. And second, am I the only one who thinks that the entire roof is missing off the crew compartment? That dark shadow on top really gives me that impression.

they do that so they can tow it behind a retriever without as much further damage. Sometimes they are able to use the drive sprocket and other times not. Just depends on the damage and how quickly they want to haul it out of there.

gary

[elco]

Thnx for checking in guys it is nice to have you around!

On late war pics you clearly see that the units were creative with field repairs and try to save as much material they could.

@ Afv fan, the roof is blown of indeed but i left the roof on so don't have to make a interior in it.. lazy builder hey . But i decided to place a engine in it so i can create the blown of engine plate on the reardeck.

A far as the tracks i do believe they are shorted tracks. To create a even more dramatic effect i mounted different roadwheels on the left side.

This is a pic of another field repair of a knocked out Stug in Berlin. If you build this one without shown this pic you recieve a lot of comment right ?
So if any of you guys want to build this one



And some other well known pics of a knocked out collumn in Hungary with a JP with shortend tracks

[elco]

And some more pics!

the engine build up





Rght hand side with mixed wheels





And so more damage..



Now time for some scratchbuild and PE detailing

[Leon]

Elco your doing a fantastic job on this,keep up the good work.

[AndyArgent.]

Liking that very impressive

[Tojo72]

very interesting,are you building the complete dio,it would be impressive for sure

[elco]

Leon, thnx i try to do so

Andy, thnx for stopping by, now let's see if i can impress some more

Toyo, yes i am planning a little groundwork for it, maybe i combine it with another ref pic i have..

[afvfan]

I stand not so much corrected, as educated. Thanks for posting those pics.

[bbd468]

This is just too cool, Im totally gonna follow this! Nice job so far Elco.

[elco]

Thnx Gary  AFVfan, glad to make things clear 

Well i am out of contactglue so no PE today.. But i did some " magic" on the righthand side this afternoon





I noticed that the middle idler isn't at the right place so i have to move this a bit.. Whit a little thin cement i can change the sack in the tracks so this shouldn't cause any problems.. I hope..




Well the weekend is almost over and also the fast updates but i want this build finished not far from now so stay tuned!

Thnx for watching and feel free to comment

[Deleted]

I love what you are doing, only one remark: the wheel hubs on the empty axles should be removed those hubs were attached only to the wheels and not to the axle. Just drill those axles a little bit out and it will be more realistic, like here on this bruckenleger IV.

Eddy

[danb.]

Some great work going on here Elco im going to keep my eyes out for this build

Dan B

[elco]

Hey Eddy, thnx mate didn't realise this. I will adjust this!

Thnx Dan!

[Deleted]

This is looking great and it isn't even done. More please!

G

[wbill76]

Very nice progress on this one. Looking forward to more! Those reference pics definitely show the 'field expediency' tendencies of units in a hurry and facing a shortage of spare parts. Anything to keep a vehicle in service just a little while longer...

[deafpanzer]

Hope I am not late to your party... count me in! Damaged track looks pretty good! Thanks for posting those great pictures...

[losboz]

Looking good, like the damage inflicted   I have this Dragon model and as its not great have also set about wrecking it.  Have bookmarked and will be dropping in when I can

Los

[Deleted]

very nice idea and build so far

[elco]

G, i just started
Bill, yes those pics say everything for those last months, this is the way i like to build stuff, raw uncut
Andy, your just in time time mate, bring out the beer and let's celebrate!
Los, thnx, yes the kit is a real pain, nothing fits normaly.. But even a KO afv must look proper so when you start with this kit make sure your have a lot of sandingpaper at your table!
Pete, thnx for dropping by, stay tuned!


Thnx guys for checking in, just ordered the alu barrel a set of tool clambs to detail it some more. Let's see if we can make it as raw on the pics!

For now have a great new years eve and i see you in 2014!!

[elco]

Thnx, i couldn't leave this one after seeing the pic.

first i wanted to build this pic from the new Dragon release



But when i saw Mirko's pic on ML i knew this one i wanted to build and don't had to buy a kit because i this oldie in my stash 

I manage to made a little progress, fixed the axels and moved the iddler and adjusted the track. I almost completed the plasic build! When i got my clambs and barrel i give you guys a pic update!

Stay tuned!

[elco]

Hi folks, some progress..

i had to pray some paint on the wheels and tracks before placing the hull otherwise it wasn't possible to do it decent. The enigine bay and engine are ready.. I couldn't help myself to start with the weathering on the wheels and tracks, it isn't finished yet but the first dirt is on it 











next stop is too put on the last clambs and spray a camo on it..

[deafpanzer]

Looking good so far... like the work on damaged engine hatch.

[wbill76]

I concur with the esteemed Sir Francis. Nice progress there Elco!