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Post by Real G on Dec 22, 2023 13:01:09 GMT -5
Joe, I have the exquisite 1/48 Modelsvit kit, the night fighter version with the big “hot dog” radar pod. You know guys, I never would have thought I would enter a P-51 GB, but if it flies (ba-dum, tish!) I will join in. The P-51 is one of those subjects I abhor, because it is what all the “normal” guys build. But then again I’m such a hypocrite, as I like the most oft-kitted plane of all, the Bf-109G6.
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Post by stikpusher on Dec 22, 2023 15:25:17 GMT -5
Joe, I have the exquisite 1/48 Modelsvit kit, the night fighter version with the big “hot dog” radar pod. You know guys, I never would have thought I would enter a P-51 GB, but if it flies (ba-dum, tish!) I will join in. The P-51 is one of those subjects I abhor, because it is what all the “normal” guys build. But then again I’m such a hypocrite, as I like the most oft-kitted plane of all, the Bf-109G6. You could always do an Allison engined early Mustang, or the post war odd ball P-51H that the twin Mustang was based off of... just to keep it different.
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Post by Real G on Dec 22, 2023 16:15:02 GMT -5
Well Stik, if the GB does materialize and the P-82 is allowed, I’ll do it. If we have to stay with single-engine Ponies, I’ll pass.
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Post by kyledehart5 on Dec 22, 2023 18:31:16 GMT -5
Well Stik, if the GB does materialize and the P-82 is allowed, I’ll do it. If we have to stay with single-engine Ponies, I’ll pass. surely the twin mustang would be allowed. 2 mustangs for the price of 1!! lol. I’d like to see it built anyways.
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Post by bbrowniii on Dec 23, 2023 0:08:25 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP! This GB hasn't even started yet and it is at NINE pages??!!
I gotta get in on this!!
I've got a D-9 in my stash, but it is started, so... dammit! I'll have to go shopping!!! Stand by and I'll let you know what I'm going to jump in with....
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Post by kyledehart5 on Dec 23, 2023 3:17:18 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP! This GB hasn't even started yet and it is at NINE pages??!! I gotta get in on this!! I've got a D-9 in my stash, but it is started, so... dammit! I'll have to go shopping!!! Stand by and I'll let you know what I'm going to jump in with.... Shopping for a new kit?
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Post by 406 Silverado on Dec 23, 2023 6:44:57 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP! This GB hasn't even started yet and it is at NINE pages??!! I gotta get in on this!! I've got a D-9 in my stash, but it is started, so... dammit! I'll have to go shopping!!! Stand by and I'll let you know what I'm going to jump in with.... This'll be GREAT having you in here Boyd. Depending on where you're at you could still enter the D-9 that you have started. This is #4 on the rules on the first page bro. 4) Started builds are fine but please limit construction at the fuselage halves glued together.
Just sayin'
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Post by 406 Silverado on Dec 23, 2023 6:47:00 GMT -5
Well Stik, if the GB does materialize and the P-82 is allowed, I’ll do it. If we have to stay with single-engine Ponies, I’ll pass. I'm pretty sure that accommodations could be made to include that kit. I only knew of the Revell version of this bird so it's good to see that there's another offering out there. It's GOTTA be better than the Revell kit.
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Post by bbrowniii on Dec 23, 2023 7:27:50 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP! This GB hasn't even started yet and it is at NINE pages??!! I gotta get in on this!! I've got a D-9 in my stash, but it is started, so... dammit! I'll have to go shopping!!! Stand by and I'll let you know what I'm going to jump in with.... Shopping for a new kit? Hey Mister.... sacrifices must be made...
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Post by bbrowniii on Dec 23, 2023 7:29:51 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP! This GB hasn't even started yet and it is at NINE pages??!! I gotta get in on this!! I've got a D-9 in my stash, but it is started, so... dammit! I'll have to go shopping!!! Stand by and I'll let you know what I'm going to jump in with.... This'll be GREAT having you in here Boyd. Depending on where you're at you could still enter the D-9 that you have started. This is #4 on the rules on the first page bro. 4) Started builds are fine but please limit construction at the fuselage halves glued together.
Just sayin' Yeah, I saw that rule, but technically I didn't start it. I bought it partially built. So, you know, just in the spirit of... comradery... I feel like I should have something fresh.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Dec 23, 2023 7:41:12 GMT -5
This'll be GREAT having you in here Boyd. Depending on where you're at you could still enter the D-9 that you have started. This is #4 on the rules on the first page bro. 4) Started builds are fine but please limit construction at the fuselage halves glued together.
Just sayin' Yeah, I saw that rule, but technically I didn't start it. I bought it partially built. So, you know, just in the spirit of... comradery... I feel like I should have something fresh. I hear what you're sayin Boyd. Didn't realize that you bought it like that. I'm STILL looking forward to having you in there though given what you're going with that Panther that you've been working on.
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Post by dean48ws on Dec 24, 2023 3:19:52 GMT -5
Gents, at the risk of exposing myself as a complete aircraft idiot, I have a few questions that can hopefully be answered by someone in the know?? Ok, why, later in the war, were American aircraft in particular finished in, what appears to be, the natural metal? Was this metal coated with something to give it that sheen? (Aluminium I presume?) If the Germans were running short of materials late in the war, why didn't they do the same? Camouflage on the ground at improvised runways? Just turning a few ideas over in my head for this build. Any input greatly appreciated. I've also seem to recall seeing some 'what if' type builds of German gear if the war had gone on longer but can't remember the name for it? Cheers.
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Post by Leon on Dec 24, 2023 6:27:33 GMT -5
Count me in! I have a 1/32 F W 190 A3.
Not your glue and paint model if allowed.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Dec 24, 2023 7:48:36 GMT -5
Gents, at the risk of exposing myself as a complete aircraft idiot, I have a few questions that can hopefully be answered by someone in the know?? Ok, why, later in the war, were American aircraft in particular finished in, what appears to be, the natural metal? Was this metal coated with something to give it that sheen? (Aluminium I presume?) If the Germans were running short of materials late in the war, why didn't they do the same? Camouflage on the ground at improvised runways? Just turning a few ideas over in my head for this build. Any input greatly appreciated. I've also seem to recall seeing some 'what if' type builds of German gear if the war had gone on longer but can't remember the name for it? Cheers. I don't have a text book answer for this but I did find a source that talks about the NMF on American aircraft: Quote: Most Natural Metal aircraft were waxed or over-sprayed with a clear coat, thus allowing the silver primer and natural metal surfaces to show through. This reduced the weight of the aircraft, allowing for improved range, speed, and performance. Anti-Glare panels were typically Olive Drab or Flat Black, however, there are numerous examples of aircraft utilizing their squadron colors as anti-glare panels.As far as the Germans doing the same thing, they didn't have the resources for fuel let alone clear coats to go over NMF and by wars end were hopping from airfield to airfield to get away from advancing forces. Germany's "Last Air Force" as some call it was a small unit comprised of the best pilots and latest aircraft and had to repeatedly relocate and with that, were totally on the defense instead of the offense. All time was spent in the defense with little time left over for camo or concealment. As far as the "what if" equipment that the Germans had, this was referred to as Luftwaffe 1946, otherwise known as Luft '46 that included a vast array of aircraft that German aircraft designers had come up with. Link: www.luft46.com/ Hope this helps you out Tim
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Post by 406 Silverado on Dec 24, 2023 7:52:00 GMT -5
Count me in! I have a 1/32 F W 190 A3. Not your glue and paint model if allowed. Bring it on Leon!! We'd love to see what you've got man!!
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Post by Leon on Dec 24, 2023 11:33:45 GMT -5
Really looking forward to the start of this group build!
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Post by dean48ws on Dec 24, 2023 16:43:33 GMT -5
Gents, at the risk of exposing myself as a complete aircraft idiot, I have a few questions that can hopefully be answered by someone in the know?? Ok, why, later in the war, were American aircraft in particular finished in, what appears to be, the natural metal? Was this metal coated with something to give it that sheen? (Aluminium I presume?) If the Germans were running short of materials late in the war, why didn't they do the same? Camouflage on the ground at improvised runways? Just turning a few ideas over in my head for this build. Any input greatly appreciated. I've also seem to recall seeing some 'what if' type builds of German gear if the war had gone on longer but can't remember the name for it? Cheers. I don't have a text book answer for this but I did find a source that talks about the NMF on American aircraft: Quote: Most Natural Metal aircraft were waxed or over-sprayed with a clear coat, thus allowing the silver primer and natural metal surfaces to show through. This reduced the weight of the aircraft, allowing for improved range, speed, and performance. Anti-Glare panels were typically Olive Drab or Flat Black, however, there are numerous examples of aircraft utilizing their squadron colors as anti-glare panels.As far as the Germans doing the same thing, they didn't have the resources for fuel let alone clear coats to go over NMF and by wars end were hopping from airfield to airfield to get away from advancing forces. Germany's "Last Air Force" as some call it was a small unit comprised of the best pilots and latest aircraft and had to repeatedly relocate and with that, were totally on the defense instead of the offense. All time was spent in the defense with little time left over for camo or concealment. As far as the "what if" equipment that the Germans had, this was referred to as Luftwaffe 1946, otherwise known as Luft '46 that included a vast array of aircraft that German aircraft designers had come up with. Link: www.luft46.com/ Hope this helps you out Tim Cheers mate, great info. Appreciate you taking the time to respond.
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Post by jeaton01 on Dec 24, 2023 17:10:41 GMT -5
The US quit with the camouflage because there was little threat of attack on home airfields late in the war. This is the first I have heard of waxing bare aluminum which is not to say it wasn't done, but the US used Alclad type aluminum which has a rolled in surface treatment of pure aluminum which retards corrosion. Bare aluminum high strength alloys have a much higher tendency for corrosion without the alclad treatment.
The Germans were under ever increasing threat of attack on whatever they were using for an airfield so there was no shiny bare metal left on top of their airplanes.
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Post by dupes on Dec 27, 2023 9:04:04 GMT -5
Five days left. I know what I'm doing on January first!
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Post by dupes on Dec 27, 2023 9:05:50 GMT -5
Count me in! I have a 1/32 F W 190 A3. Not your glue and paint model if allowed. Leon - who makes the kit? Need to update the roster.
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Post by eaglecash867 on Dec 27, 2023 9:07:02 GMT -5
How does this work? Do we post our full WIP here or do we do that in separate threads? Got my Z-M ready to go for January 1st!
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Post by adt70hk on Dec 27, 2023 10:11:11 GMT -5
How does this work? Do we post our full WIP here or do we do that in separate threads? Got my Z-M ready to go for January 1st! Separate threads for each of our own WIPs and you can then post the full set of completed pics in the gallery of completed builds if you want. HTH? Andrew
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Post by Real G on Dec 27, 2023 12:44:25 GMT -5
I’ll be pulling my Hase 1/32 Dora 9 down from the stash, and dusting it off in preparation for Jan 1! I also found an aftermarket decal sheet for JV 44 birds in the decal folder. I forgot if I bought anything else; I’ll need to peek in the kit box.
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Post by 406 Silverado on Dec 27, 2023 13:02:21 GMT -5
How does this work? Do we post our full WIP here or do we do that in separate threads? Got my Z-M ready to go for January 1st! How does this work? Do we post our full WIP here or do we do that in separate threads? Got my Z-M ready to go for January 1st! Separate threads for each of our own WIPs and you can then post the full set of completed pics in the gallery of completed builds if you want. HTH? Andrew Looks like Andrew's got you covered on that eagle. I'll start a gallery thread and enter all the shots in in one post as each participant finishes theirs.
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Post by eaglecash867 on Dec 27, 2023 18:20:34 GMT -5
Separate threads for each of our own WIPs and you can then post the full set of completed pics in the gallery of completed builds if you want. HTH? Andrew Thanks Andrew! Looks like Andrew's got you covered on that eagle. I'll start a gallery thread and enter all the shots in in one post as each participant finishes theirs. Thanks Joe! I’ve only been in a couple of GBs so far and was never really sure about what the right way to do it was. Now I know.
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Post by Leon on Dec 27, 2023 20:56:49 GMT -5
Dupes, the kit is from Cobi builds!
All Cobi kits are manufactured in Poland.
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Post by TJ on Dec 28, 2023 4:50:35 GMT -5
Itching to start. Got my kit down from the stash pile. I'm going to try a Quinta Studio cockpit set on this one
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Post by handiabled on Dec 28, 2023 10:13:01 GMT -5
Well most everything for my build has slowly shown up. It's going to be opened up as much as possible. The kit and extras: Hasegawa 1/32 FW 190D-9 Aires 2031 containing engine and mounts/gun bays/gear bay/radio Black Dog A32001 control surfaces and rudder Black Dog A32002 tail wheel Model Design Construction D32009 Duralumin manufactures stamps Model Design Construction MDCDT08 oxygen hose HGW 132010 Harnesses Eduard JX005 canopy masks Eduard JX502 Spinner spiral masks AIMS 32PE014 Hatches/latches pe set Quinta QD32061 3d cockpit panel set HGW 321001 Rivet set What has yet to arrive Eduard 32101 Landing Flaps 1 Man Army 32DET026 Stencil Mask set
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Post by dupes on Dec 28, 2023 10:15:06 GMT -5
Eduard JX502 Spinner spiral masks Eduard makes spinner spiral masks? Innnnnnnteresting!
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Post by kyledehart5 on Dec 28, 2023 12:58:51 GMT -5
Well most everything for my build has slowly shown up. It's going to be opened up as much as possible. The kit and extras: Hasegawa 1/32 FW 190D-9 Aires 2031 containing engine and mounts/gun bays/gear bay/radio Black Dog A32001 control surfaces and rudder Black Dog A32002 tail wheel Model Design Construction D32009 Duralumin manufactures stamps Model Design Construction MDCDT08 oxygen hose HGW 132010 Harnesses Eduard JX005 canopy masks Eduard JX502 Spinner spiral masks AIMS 32PE014 Hatches/latches pe set Quinta QD32061 3d cockpit panel set HGW 321001 Rivet set What has yet to arrive Eduard 32101 Landing Flaps 1 Man Army 32DET026 Stencil Mask set Awesome haul of goodies. This will be an epic build!
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