Hasegawa 1/48 FW 190 A-4

[keavdog]

I'm guessing Herman never took one up 😂

[kyledehart5]

Jan 22, 2024 21:57:56 GMT -5 deafpanzer said:

No kidding! I visited one of very few flyable Me109s few weeks ago and I couldn’t believe how tiny the cockpit was. And the view was very limited from inside too!

There was no way I can fit inside there unless I loose 50-75 lbs… 🤪

That is tight!! I’d never be able to fit in there unless I lost about a solid 120 pounds. 😂

[kyledehart5]

Jan 22, 2024 22:02:14 GMT -5 keavdog said:

I'm guessing Herman never took one up 😂

🤣😂 old Herman needed a cargo plane for sure. 

[jeaton01]

I was reading a wartime report on the 109 the other day and I was surprised that the aileron forces got very high above 250 mph indicated airspeed. It severely limited the rate of roll at high speed and was made difficult by the narrow cockpit because it limited arm position. Some pilots used their legs to help. The 109 was definitely a dive and zoom bird and that was helped because Messerschmitt started out designing gliders and thus gave the same down deflection on the elevators as in the up direction. This is very rare in powered airplanes where usually the down deflection is about half of up elevator. In the 109, along with fuel injection allowing the engine to keep running under negative G, the 109 could more rapidly drop its nose and start to accelerate, giving a head start that airplanes with superior ultimate diving speeds could not overcome.

[kyledehart5]

Jan 22, 2024 23:42:29 GMT -5 jeaton01 said:

I was reading a wartime report on the 109 the other day and I was surprised that the aileron forces got very high above 250 mph indicated airspeed. It severely limited the rate of roll at high speed and was made difficult by the narrow cockpit because it limited arm position. Some pilots used their legs to help. The 109 was definitely a dive and zoom bird and that was helped because Messerschmidt started out designing gliders and thus gave the same down deflection on the elevators as in the up direction. This is very rare in powered airplanes where usually the down deflection is about half of up elevator. In the 109, along with fuel injection allowing the engine to keep running under negative G, the 109 could more rapidly drop its nose and start to accelerate, giving a head start that airplanes with superior ultimate diving speeds could not overcome.

Oh I do love these title tidbits of history. I definitely need to add a 109 to the collection at some point. 

[406 Silverado]

Jan 23, 2024 0:12:52 GMT -5 kyledehart5 said:

Jan 22, 2024 23:42:29 GMT -5 jeaton01 said:

I was reading a wartime report on the 109 the other day and I was surprised that the aileron forces got very high above 250 mph indicated airspeed. It severely limited the rate of roll at high speed and was made difficult by the narrow cockpit because it limited arm position. Some pilots used their legs to help. The 109 was definitely a dive and zoom bird and that was helped because Messerschmidt started out designing gliders and thus gave the same down deflection on the elevators as in the up direction. This is very rare in powered airplanes where usually the down deflection is about half of up elevator. In the 109, along with fuel injection allowing the engine to keep running under negative G, the 109 could more rapidly drop its nose and start to accelerate, giving a head start that airplanes with superior ultimate diving speeds could not overcome.

Oh I do love these title tidbits of history. I definitely need to add a 109 to the collection at some point. 

  They really are cool planes and I've built two so far. There were alot of planes shot down by this aircraft in the hands of a skilled pilot. Between the top three aces of WWII they accounted for almost 1000 victories flying 109s (the only exception to this is that Barkhorn managed a few in the D-9). Let's see:

Erich Hartmann: 352 Victories

Gerhard Barkhorn: 301 Victories

Gunther Rall: 275 Victories

[speedgraflex]

Bravo! Beautiful job on the cockpit and subsequent installations, Kyle!

[TJ]

Kyle you've caught up to me. My pace slowed the last two weeks because of work. I should be able to sling some paint this weekend

[tucohoward]

Looking really good, Kyle! I'm a big fan of the Quinta stuff too. Wait, what? You've never built a 109!!

Cheers,
Jay

[406 Silverado]

Jan 23, 2024 7:08:50 GMT -5 tucohoward said:

Looking really good, Kyle! I'm a big fan of the Quinta stuff too. Wait, what? You've never built a 109!!

Cheers,
Jay

   I know right??!! You know we're gonna have to take care of that right Jay?  

[kyledehart5]

Jan 23, 2024 2:25:05 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

Jan 23, 2024 0:12:52 GMT -5 kyledehart5 said:

Oh I do love these title tidbits of history. I definitely need to add a 109 to the collection at some point. 

  They really are cool planes and I've built two so far. There were alot of planes shot down by this aircraft in the hands of a skilled pilot. Between the top three aces of WWII they accounted for almost 1000 victories flying 109s (the only exception to this is that Barkhorn managed a few in the D-9). Let's see:

Erich Hartmann: 352 Victories

Gerhard Barkhorn: 301 Victories

Gunther Rall: 275 Victories

That is some really impressive stuff!!

Jan 23, 2024 5:17:28 GMT -5 speedgraflex said:

Bravo! Beautiful job on the cockpit and subsequent installations, Kyle!

Thank you very much!

Jan 23, 2024 6:24:23 GMT -5 TJ said:

Kyle you've caught up to me. My pace slowed the last two weeks because of work. I should be able to sling some paint this weekend

The weather has gotten in my way as far as painting a couple other projects so I have been able to move ahead with the subassemblies on this one! Hoping to close the cowling tonight after work. I may be ready to toss some paint at mine this weekend as well!

Jan 23, 2024 7:08:50 GMT -5 tucohoward said:

Looking really good, Kyle! I'm a big fan of the Quinta stuff too. Wait, what? You've never built a 109!!

Cheers,
Jay

Thank you Jay!! No 109s thus far. Aircraft I’ve built: P-47, Avro Shackleton, P-61, B-25. This 190 is number 5. I just sprinkle them in from time to time 

Jan 23, 2024 7:12:27 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

Jan 23, 2024 7:08:50 GMT -5 tucohoward said:

Looking really good, Kyle! I'm a big fan of the Quinta stuff too. Wait, what? You've never built a 109!!

Cheers,
Jay

   I know right??!! You know we're gonna have to take care of that right Jay?  

I have no doubt that I’ll build a 109 thanks to you fine folks. 

[stikpusher]

[kyledehart5]

Jan 23, 2024 13:21:34 GMT -5 stikpusher said:

lol. As a long time bmw owner I find it fitting that I build the fw190 first. 

[kyledehart5]

Further progress as I got the engine and cowling installed this evening. The cowling coming in 5 pieces was somewhat annoying but I believe the seams follow the actually panels of the real bird so some joints would be not unexpected. As anticipated much of the engine disappears entirely from view. And will get even harder to see once the cooling fan and spinner are on there. But my bright pushrods do show ok through the gloom. Hoping to toss some paint at this soon if it ever stops raining. 

[handiabled]

This is coming along great Kye! I can't wait to see some color on this. I have no doubt you will do a knockout job on it

[kyledehart5]

Jan 24, 2024 2:05:21 GMT -5 handiabled said:

This is coming along great Kye! I can't wait to see some color on this. I have no doubt you will do a knockout job on it

Thanks Brent! I’m going to have to watch some YouTube the next couple days on painting Luftwaffe camo schemes to prepare for a break in the weather. Lol

[406 Silverado]

Jan 24, 2024 0:01:38 GMT -5 kyledehart5 said:

Further progress as I got the engine and cowling installed this evening. The cowling coming in 5 pieces was somewhat annoying but I believe the seams follow the actually panels of the real bird so some joints would be not unexpected. As anticipated much of the engine disappears entirely from view. And will get even harder to see once the cooling fan and spinner are on there. But my bright pushrods do show ok through the gloom. Hoping to toss some paint at this soon if it ever stops raining. 

  I love building Fw190's and have built two through the years (and still have them both) , an A8/R2 and a D-9. I love all the details that get packed into an A model but a lot of engine and cockpit detail really gets hidden on them in both areas because of the IP shrouding in the pit and the cooling fan in the engine area. They still make for a good addition to any model case/ shelf as they are such menacing looking aircraft. 

 You're making some good strides on this one Kyle. Take your time with the paint bud.....we're here if you need anything. 

[kyledehart5]

Jan 24, 2024 8:25:58 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

Jan 24, 2024 0:01:38 GMT -5 kyledehart5 said:

Further progress as I got the engine and cowling installed this evening. The cowling coming in 5 pieces was somewhat annoying but I believe the seams follow the actually panels of the real bird so some joints would be not unexpected. As anticipated much of the engine disappears entirely from view. And will get even harder to see once the cooling fan and spinner are on there. But my bright pushrods do show ok through the gloom. Hoping to toss some paint at this soon if it ever stops raining. 

  I love building Fw190's and have built two through the years (and still have them both) , an A8/R2 and a D-9. I love all the details that get packed into an A model but a lot of engine and cockpit detail really gets hidden on them in both areas because of the IP shrouding in the pit and the cooling fan in the engine area. They still make for a good addition to any model case/ shelf as they are such menacing looking aircraft. 

 You're making some good strides on this one Kyle. Take your time with the paint bud.....we're here if you need anything. 

Oh absolutely. Great looking birds and this one is going to look fantastic on the shelf. Especially in Graf’s wild livery. I love it. Hidden details or not. And I know you guys will get me squared away if I have any questions or issues with the camo.

[brandonk]

Such an iconic airframe. It is coming along quite nicely and will be a stunning addition to your collection. I'm really enjoying the journey.

[kyledehart5]

Jan 24, 2024 10:21:14 GMT -5 brandonk said:

Such an iconic airframe. It is coming along quite nicely and will be a stunning addition to your collection. I'm really enjoying the journey.

Thank you very much Brandon! I’m really enjoying the build and look forward to my paint experiments.

[TJ]

The 190A is just right in terms of looks. its graceful yet menacing. And the number of camouflage schemes is bountiful. I'm sure any one of our members can point out color tips

[kyledehart5]

Jan 25, 2024 4:36:06 GMT -5 TJ said:

The 190A is just right in terms of looks. it’s graceful yet menacing. And the number of camouflage schemes is bountiful. I'm sure any one of our members can point out color tips

I agree. It’s a gorgeous airframe. I have some rlm light blue, gray violet and black green for sure. If any one has any tips or tutorials on mottling I’m all ears. Going to probably try to practice on an old car body or something I have laying around. 

[stikpusher]

Yup, practice is the best way to get the hang of mottling. Thin the paint down and dial down the pressure on your airbrush. An old car body as your paint test mule sounds ideal. Also you will want to make the undersides of the tail planes to avoid any accidental overspray there.

[brandonk]

Jan 25, 2024 13:54:37 GMT -5 stikpusher said:

Yup, practice is the best way to get the hang of mottling. Thin the paint down and dial down the pressure on your airbrush. An old car body as your paint test mule sounds ideal. Also you will want to make the undersides of the tail planes to avoid any accidental overspray there.

Truth! And, if you have a small needle airbrush, use that. The fine line abilities make forming those mottles much easier.

[406 Silverado]

Jan 25, 2024 13:34:13 GMT -5 kyledehart5 said:

Jan 25, 2024 4:36:06 GMT -5 TJ said:

The 190A is just right in terms of looks. it’s graceful yet menacing. And the number of camouflage schemes is bountiful. I'm sure any one of our members can point out color tips

I agree. It’s a gorgeous airframe. I have some rlm light blue, gray violet and black green for sure. If any one has any tips or tutorials on mottling I’m all ears. Going to probably try to practice on an old car body or something I have laying around. 

  Thin the heck out of the paint, turn the pressure down to around 15-20psi,  barely open the needle and get in close. One thing to remember is to keep the airbrush moving and not to stay in one place with it too long. As was mentioned, an old car body or even a piece of scrap cardboard will work out great as a test mule. 

[stikpusher]

Jan 22, 2024 22:02:14 GMT -5 keavdog said:

I'm guessing Herman never took one up 😂

Nope… he flew a few years before then…

[kyledehart5]

Jan 25, 2024 13:54:37 GMT -5 stikpusher said:

Yup, practice is the best way to get the hang of mottling. Thin the paint down and dial down the pressure on your airbrush. An old car body as your paint test mule sounds ideal. Also you will want to make the undersides of the tail planes to avoid any accidental overspray there.

Thank you for the tips!!

Jan 25, 2024 13:56:31 GMT -5 brandonk said:

Jan 25, 2024 13:54:37 GMT -5 stikpusher said:

Yup, practice is the best way to get the hang of mottling. Thin the paint down and dial down the pressure on your airbrush. An old car body as your paint test mule sounds ideal. Also you will want to make the undersides of the tail planes to avoid any accidental overspray there.

Truth! And, if you have a small needle airbrush, use that. The fine line abilities make forming those mottles much easier.

Thank you. I have a 0.3 that does pretty fine lines. And I have a smaller needle and nozzle I can swap into one of my other ones too. I’ll have to run some tests to see what gets a finer line. 

Jan 25, 2024 14:48:16 GMT -5 406 Silverado said:

Jan 25, 2024 13:34:13 GMT -5 kyledehart5 said:

I agree. It’s a gorgeous airframe. I have some rlm light blue, gray violet and black green for sure. If any one has any tips or tutorials on mottling I’m all ears. Going to probably try to practice on an old car body or something I have laying around. 

  Thin the heck out of the paint, turn the pressure down to around 15-20psi,  barely open the needle and get in close. One thing to remember is to keep the airbrush moving and not to stay in one place with it too long. As was mentioned, an old car body or even a piece of scrap cardboard will work out great as a test mule. 

Thanks Joe!! Appreciate the hints everyone. I’m hoping to get some practice in this weekend. 

[eaglecash867]

Looking great Kyle! Just curious, what paint did you use on those push rods on the engine? I like it better than the sparkly stuff I ended up using.

[kyledehart5]

Jan 28, 2024 20:19:43 GMT -5 eaglecash867 said:

Looking great Kyle! Just curious, what paint did you use on those push rods on the engine? I like it better than the sparkly stuff I ended up using.

Thank you very much. And I cannot tell a lie. It was a metallic bronze sharpie. Which I enjoy deploying on dark brass or bronzish colored metal parts on many old engines…as long as it’s not a big flat surface it lays down really smooth

[reserve]

And why not? I use these myself where I can they are sure simpler to use than the hair stick