Panther A Late - 1/21 Really done, I swear!

[wing_nut]

Gary, no worries. I have some WIPs to check on too.

Yeah Rob, never thought of that. But what about a busted, frayed, rusted cable?



The ATAK zim arrived over the weekend. YIPPIE! This is my 1st experience with this brand. The quality of the product is excellent. The casting is very crisp and the fit is near perfect. But it is thick and leans toward being brittle. Cavalier brand zim, which is paper thin and very flexible while staying fairy strong, will be my 1st choice of future product when possible.



The minimal instructions tell you to sand the backing. The pieces are somewhat sunken into the sheet and the back needs to be flattened. Extra effort is needed to get it thin. This is a schurzen panel with the back flat but not yet thinned. If I go with the zimmed schurzen I will just use these as it won’t need the metal pieces from the kit.











He bolts around the fan covers are molded as nearly round and very thin so I added some resin bolts head as seen on the left. All the zim panels are installed with some chipping added.

[spud]

Very Nice

[tonylee-Rest In Peace]

The Zimm applied well.
First time i've heard someone say it was two thick?
Atak seems to fit better and Cavalier never does for me so far?

Lovin it guy
Tony

[deafpanzer]

Dig the damages on Zimm!!! This has been a great thread because I haven't tried ATAK and I have few Cavalier sets in stash which I haven't yet tried them.

Any luck with the hunt for KT?

[reserve]

Nice Wingy

I've always hated sanding for thickness on comparitivley large area stuff like this, looks like it's no trouble to you tho. Looks excellent to date

Regards,
Mark

[redleg12]

It's Zimm man.... something being Mr. OD that I have not experienced (thank God). Looks like great progress on the Zimm puzzle.

Rounds Complete!!

[robbo]

Love a Panther and this one is looking great, nice tip for the tracks

[wbill76]

The forums wouldn't let me post yesterday so I'll 'repost'....

The Atak instructions on sanding aren't to create scale thickness, they are to help with the glue/application to the hull. Personally I've never done this and use Atak sheets all the time without issue. I've found that using Gator Grip or CA gel glue works just fine without the need to sand the resin panels. Atak has become my go-to zim choice for German vehicles that require it.

Your zim is looking very nice there Marc, look forward to seeing the chipping effect come through in the finish.

[wing_nut]

Hey YO...thanks all youz guyz (From NJ... remember )

[bbd468]

Marc, tha Zimm looks SWEET!!! Would like to try my hand at the Ataz Zimm sometime....on a Panther of course.

Gary

[wing_nut]

Still a ways to go to paint but closer than it was... if that make sense. So some (lots) questions.

Real zim... kind of a straw like color? Would it be applied directly over the primer? Would that be red oxide oft a late A? Would that show through where the zim chipped off? Did it chip off clean from the surface or leave a residue still cover some of the primer?

It is conceivable that some of the zim would have chipped prior to the field applied white wash and some afterward wouldn't it? I am think some of the chipped stuff would be white and some primer color.

A late Panther A in Poland in 1944... a 3 tone scheme under the white wash?

[406 Silverado]

Zim looks great Marc. Yes the zim was applied over the primer I believe. Redoxide is the primer color, but I may be wrong. Not sure how long they used the darker grayish primer.

[tonylee-Rest In Peace]

Tony lee
Merry Christmas
Marc

[wbill76]

Zim was mixed with an included ochre pigment so it's color is influenced by that. It was applied as Rob mentions directly over the primer and then dried with a blowtorch. Tony's pic illustrates vividly the contrast that shows with chipped zim. Primer isn't typically exposed on chipped zim although there are recovered vehicles that have the zim chipped all the way down to the primer. In the field it was common for the crews to repaint over the chipped surface to keep the integrity of the camo scheme whenever possible. Tony's pic is an example of a damaged and abandoned vehicle for instance. It looks like it took quite the beating!

[wing_nut]

Thanks for the zim info. Great pic Tony. i can see that "residue" look in the light areas.

May be a few little tidbits that can be added before prime/paint but after painting all that stuff already on the little KT, I am going back to my old MO and all that will be done off the machine.

Got some wheels adjustments to be made once the track install is permanent... bend a few axles, glue tracks to the tops f the tire... that sort of stuff.

Filled the chipped areas with Bondo, wiped most of is out then stipple it with a stiff brush. Some will show primer exposed and other will be as if they occurred before the white was was applied.

[wbill76]

Nice update Marc, looking forward to more!

[redleg12]

You seem to be zimming along...nice damage look.

Rounds Complete!!

[bbd468]

Marc, fantastic job on the Zimm and damaged areas....great build my man!

Gary

[Deleted]

Yup , what Mike said .

Zimm-whang ! ;D

[deafpanzer]

This is IT!!!! I am going to build a Panther in 2013... thanks a lot! Your pussycat is looking great especially the Zimm...

[eastrock]

great work Marc, your getting all the details patch up

[armorguy]

Great build, love the Atak zimm, flawless !

[406 Silverado]

Nice update Marc and still lovin that zim

[wing_nut]

OK... It's the 26th... fun's over. GET BACK TO WORK

Hope everyone had a lovely day. We did what's sometimes referred to as the "Jewish Christmas"... a movie and Chinese food. And my wife should know Saw "The Hobbit" in 3D... freakin' awesome.

Thanks you to all that took the time to stop by and commented.

1st thing this AM went out to get a gallon of lacquer thinner... LET THE PAINTING BEGIN! So far only primed with Mr. Surfacer 1200. Had a problem with the dk yellow. Mixed the paint, added the lacquer and it turned in the thick oily mess. You can see the slick on top and the way it's not cpoatingthe side of the cup. Anyone have this problem with Tamoiya paints?

The PE track racks on the sides of the hull were too thin and the tabs were breaking. YO DRAGON! Why were these tabs separate and not all one piece to be bent and be STRONGER? Whatever. The plastic parts were sanded down to get them a bit thinner and drilled of drain.

[deafpanzer]

Boys and I are planning to catch the movie Hobbit later this week. Glad you mentioned it... wasn't sure about seeing it.

Love the look of anything primed especially tanks!!!

[Deleted]

Marc , i've never thinned Tamiya with lacquer . But i think maybe they changed their formula and it may not work anymore ?

I've had that kinda problem with PE crapola also . So dang fragilistic . I think the plastic hangers are more to scale thickness anyway .

Good luck and be hung in there

[redleg12]

Glad to see you "back to work". You look nicely "zimmed" up.

Rounds Complete!!

[fightnjoe]

she looks good to me. as far as the tamiya paints i have not used laquer thinner with them in a long time since i had the same result. only use rubbing alchohol with them now with no issues.


joe

[wbill76]

Hobbit and priming, what could be finer! Nice progress there Marc.

[spud]

Most of teh Pe in this Kit was Way to thin most of the time i went with the plastic.

never had that issue with Tamiya paints but at least u have primer on her now