The return of George and the Dragon

[Paul P.]

Hi all

For those that didnt see the start, i was asked to make a George and the Dragon scene, seems like eons ago now, anyway the dragon was then finished, made from Daz and milliput, and then there was a problem with the buyer, during which time my wife nicked the dragon. Anyway to cut a long story short, commision back on, SAS raid on the mantle piece to recover the dragon and we are up and running.





So this is the dragon, George will be on a rearing horse with his lance sticking in the dragons side. Ill be using a miniart horse and the Burgundian knight for the conversion. Ill be starting with the horse and see where we go from there. i might even sculpt a skeleton with some rusty armour on, i fancy having a go at this rustin lark. More to follow shortly

Paul

[TRM]

Count me back in on this one!!!! Dragon is Bloody Brilliant!!! Can't wait to see you move forward on this!!

[Paul P.]

Yes your right shes at Belly dancing

Right again she doesnt know

And no she not back until 9.30

Not sweating yet but i did buy her flowers today so that should be a few browny points

[Paul P.]

ill just tell her to go for the legs

[Deleted]

;D ,...Good to see your prepared to 'suffer' for your art......Nice to see this back on the bench,mate!!!

[Biskup.]

That's a nice one. I especially like the colors you chose and effect you have achieved on the wings.
Regards

[Paul P.]

Cheers guys

jackwagon still got all my arms and legs in one piece .............Did have to make a solemn promise to make Karen another one though

So on with the horse, just filing away to get a decent fit then ill post some pics of the changes

Paul

[Paul P.]

Frank ill try to get some more pics of the head for you.

This is the horse as it comes from the box. So the first thing is to determine the position of the legs. The back legs have to be moved back and the hoofs straightened and the front legs have to be moved forward. The head will have to be turned to the left and the neck extended and twisted to the left aswell





I always do a leg at a time and let it go off, that way i can arrange the other legs to suit. So starting with the rear left leg, i cut it away just before the rump, then cut a further angle on the back of the rump and repositioned the leg. i have done similar with the ankle and straightened the joint out a bit





So ill leave this to go solid then do the right leg. Hopefully the complete figure will have 3 supporting points, the 2 rear legs and the lance through the dragon fixed to the knight

all for now

Paul

[406 Silverado]

Count me back in for sure, sorry I missed the start here. Was most impressed seeing this come to life on the old forum. Really glad you started back up.

[Paul P.]

Hi all

Thanks for the comments guys

Just a few more pics of the legs. The other rear leg has been positioned to match. the front legs have been moved forward. just the head to do, i want to raise the head slightly and turn it to the left and also twist the neck to the left as well







all for now

Paul

[406 Silverado]

Looking very good with the new position/ stance of the horse. Keep it coming Paul.

[Paul P.]

Hi Guys
Sry i havnt been on for ages, on saturday a very good friend of mine had an argument with a car and is in intensive care, so me and Karen are helping his wife and kids out as she doesnt drive, so ive spent most of the last few days and evenings ferrying her around. ill post some more as soon as poss

regards

Paul

[Deleted]

Paul,my best wishes to your mate,for a speedy recovery...just tell him,'Next time,pick on someone yer own size,eh?'(Sorry..squaddie humour kicking in... ),plus at least,you've still got both arms,and both legs intact!!! ;D

[robbo]

Wow that dragon came out well. Good to see this on the go again

[`Boots`]

Best wishes sent fella and sorry too here the news , hope a speedy recovery is made ................on a lighter note it`s excellent to see this one back ;D

The horse is lookin` very much the part with the adjusted legs. man i wouldn`t know where to begin ..................just that simple little adjustment of the head to do then ;D ;D

[Paul P.]

Hi all

Ok my mate is now on a normal ward and is recovering, so it was obviously take the piss time, well he is an ex scots guardsman

In between time ive managed to get the head done, i had to make 4 cuts to the neck and head and plenty of filler to get a natural looking curve






Ive also filed away some of the halter, toooo many straps on a french harness. The next decision is whether to put a caparison on the horse, or armour or a bit of both, i had thought about about a shafron, which is a plate to protect the horses head and Crinet for the neck, Then just a draped cloth over the back with the st george cross on it ?
Anyway theres still a bit more to do to the horse before that gets started

all for now

Paul

[Paul P.]

cheers Frank

the George figure itself will be in full armour, so that will be fairly fantasy anyway as St George lived from 275 to 303 ad and full plate armour wasnt invented then, but i think your right as regards the horse, a mixture of armour and caparison would look good. heres some pics of the dragons head that you asked for





all for now
Paul

[Paul P.]

Hi All

Boo if your contemplating sculpting a dragon i can rcommend a book called Dragon Art by graemme Aymer, some excellent pictures in it, give it a go its good fun to ley your imagination run riot

Frank cheers bud

I have pinned the horses rear legs right up to the elbow joint and just made a rough base for it to sit on for now. Once the whole thing had a good sand i started with the armour. For the head ive made a shafron, the chest has a Peytral and at a later stage ill make some neck guards, Crinet. ive also done the saddle blanket. loads more work to do when these have gone off







All for now

Paul

[Paul P.]

Hi Mate

Yeah the dragon had a wire frame then tin foil wrapped around it and then putty on top. For this dragon i used Daz clay, mainly because it was cheap, its not bad but it is a bit chalky when it goes off and needs seeling with a laquer.
ill be keen to see how yours turns out so dont forget to blog it here

Paul

[Paul P.]

Sry jackwagon nearly missed you there, i realise that a man of your calibre would know what they were . cheers bud

Paul

[Paul P.]

Hi all

Ive been working on the shafron, raised the nose guard and added eye guards, ive also added a decorative rossette on the front







all for now

Paul

[TRM]

Looking great Paul!!!

[Paul P.]

cheers T

Mark yeah thats the stuff, as i say its quite good just gets a bit chalky when it hard and thin pieces are brittle

Paul

[Paul P.]

Hi All

Just a couple more pics, first of sharon....... sorry the shafron ive engraved an edging, erm around the edge .....and also engraved a sunburst around the rossette,and added some rivets, so thats the shafron finished apart from painting.





With the paypal..........again apologies Peytral ive also added an edging and some rivets where the plates would be joined and later on where the straps will go. next step is the saddle and then the caparison and harness for the rear end



All for now

Paul

[Paul P.]

Hi Mark
its milliput, i do a lot of conversions with it, like you say its quite strong and is easily filed and sanded to shape

Paul

[robbo]

Superb detail work Paul, loving it mate

[Paul P.]

Hi Al

cheers Robbo

Instead of making a full caparison for the horse i decided to do a drape, no doubt jackwagon will make a comment about curtains , anyway as it says its just a cloth draped over the rear of the horse, normally with the heraldry on. so ive added the cross which will be sanded a bit thinner when its gone off, i also engraved tassles around the edge







all for now

Paul

[Deleted]

hey Paul

i think the dragon is great, i would have liked to have seen that being made, The horse looks good to, looking forward to watching this one

Gaz

[Deleted]

Jeeez....that means I'm outnumbered now!!!!! ....Never mind,eh!

[Paul P.]

jackwagon, dont know about the pelmet, what about a cord to open and close them

Brian cheers mate, and yes i was a sapper f few years

Chris lets face it Dreamy were always outnumbered

Boo i dont know about that, i just take it steady

Added some more bits to the horse, namely hair, so started with the feet and added more hair



Then made a new mane, using the plastic spru and my pyrogravure







still a bit more to do on them, the tail will get the same treatment

all for now

Paul