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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 17, 2016 9:15:22 GMT -5
Well I was up all night with a sick pet, so...................
I cleaned off all the surface detail on the "road wheel" masters....loads of fun.
One of the many challenges facing any serious modeler attempting to build either the Tamiya, or Academy 1/25th scale Panther is the fact that both were loosely a toy. That being they were a remote control toy, not a serious model kit. Having said that they have PLUSES, and really are not a bad starting point. The Tamiya version is cleaner. and closer to 1/25th. The Academy version was originally a rip off of the Tamiya. The company simply made molds of the parts trees. Anyone who bought an Academy kit in the 80's remembers how the details were not crisp. They simple put seemed "off" somehow. This was due to the fact they started off using a knock off. Both versions have some SERIOUS flaws with the road wheels, least of which is the missing surface detail on the underside or facing away side of the wheels. Being a toy there is ZERO detail on these parts, thus having to add every detail manually. Additionally the interior road wheel, the "single" wheel has detail in the wrong way. They have a raised mid line on the tire portion where it should be a recessed line, very similar again to models of the 80's that had raised panel lines instead of recessed. Where this isn't as bad as the original Tamiya 1/35th Panther which was HUGE for it's scale, and had a whole series of wheels MISSING....the 1/25th version still presents challenges.
The pic's don't do the work justice.........    
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Post by dierk on Apr 17, 2016 10:09:49 GMT -5
Hope your pet is alright again. Is it the ginger cat from the picture? Sounds like the old 25's are as fun-promoting as AER Moldova and Alan kits  I'm sure you'll be doing a great job! |
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Post by vlpbruce on Apr 18, 2016 7:15:03 GMT -5
Looking good AG.
Those oldies sure do need quite a bit of work, don't they?
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 18, 2016 19:16:29 GMT -5
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Post by dierk on Apr 19, 2016 1:41:00 GMT -5
Wheels within wheels  Looking good! |
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Post by wbill76 on Apr 19, 2016 10:54:19 GMT -5
At least you got something out of it besides a bad headache! Nice work on the wheels PJ. |
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Post by Leon on Apr 19, 2016 11:06:13 GMT -5
Nice work on the wheels PJ!
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 19, 2016 22:47:20 GMT -5
So, I took a small break from the tedium of sanding and cutting bolt heads..... Here is the wench after it's first coat of primer and Panzergrey. PLEASE NOTE, the only Bergepanther winch photographed in color is depicted in Red-oxide Primer. This was done by the team refurbishing it. Technically most references DON'T give an actual color. I have chosen to go with panzergrey... my choice based on evidence and extensive reference.
       
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 20, 2016 1:09:15 GMT -5
So here is the Idler Wheel's support arm............... Since the kit was a "remote control" toy it had a straight bar arm....... it was supposed to be an "S" arm/joint...see pic .... I did all this cause the paint and wash hadn't dried on the winch
    
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Post by dierk on Apr 20, 2016 2:20:54 GMT -5
Excellent work PJ! As for your choice of wench-colour: I fully support it. Dunkelgelb may have been phased in in early '42 but there must have still been pots of Dunkelgrau around, so it was probably a case of 'waste not, want not'
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Post by wbill76 on Apr 20, 2016 9:09:11 GMT -5
Excellent work PJ! As for your choice of wench-colour: I fully support it. Dunkelgelb may have been phased in in early '42 but there must have still been pots of Dunkelgrau around, so it was probably a case of 'waste not, want not' Early 1943 (Feb to be exact) marks the official debut of DY. Engines and other mechanical stuff often got a gray primer finish though so something like that winch could easily be non-DY no matter when it was produced. Don't know when the Bergepanthers were produced off the top of my head but the first Panther Ds rolled off the assembly line before summer 1943. |
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Post by dierk on Apr 20, 2016 9:21:41 GMT -5
Of course you're right Bill - I mixed it up with the time the soviets stopped using red-oxide primer...  |
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 20, 2016 23:10:38 GMT -5
I'm currently "hip" deep in the mundane details Academy forgot.....and man that's a load Things like the towing pintles/mounts need to be drilled out the filled with aluminmum tubing, or exterior final drive details......  
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Post by martslay on Apr 21, 2016 0:47:56 GMT -5
Cool!
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Post by dierk on Apr 21, 2016 2:28:50 GMT -5
The joys of dealing with old kits! You're doing a great job - very inspiring!
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 21, 2016 19:48:28 GMT -5
So in between rivets, putty tubing and the like I took a break to give the "wench" the first wash and dry brush.....     
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Post by Ray Dunakin on Apr 21, 2016 23:01:41 GMT -5
Wow, that winch looks awesome!
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 21, 2016 23:11:28 GMT -5
Thanks Ray......
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 21, 2016 23:48:48 GMT -5
So here is second series of dry brush.... Next comes the second wash, then weathering (chipping) and such
  
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 22, 2016 0:29:01 GMT -5
Final dry brush and 2nd wash   
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Post by Leon on Apr 22, 2016 4:49:01 GMT -5
The winch looks great PJ! Just realized how big it is with you holding it.  |
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Post by wing_nut on Apr 22, 2016 6:31:30 GMT -5
Just went back and got caught up on what's been going on in here. Nice work.
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 22, 2016 23:14:20 GMT -5
First, my apologies to VBRUCE, every time he posts, I seem to post shortly after....... Any who, here is the "wench" semi dressed up and ready to dance.
    
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Post by dierk on Apr 23, 2016 3:18:21 GMT -5
Can't beat a semi-nude wench - and yours looks particularly nice! Now I have to get a rag and wipe the drool off the floor...
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Post by wbill76 on Apr 23, 2016 15:28:13 GMT -5
You've got a nice looking winch there for sure PJ! Don't let Andy see this one... |
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Post by panzerjager2 on Apr 23, 2016 18:22:01 GMT -5
Thank you to all for the kind words
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Post by Leon on Apr 23, 2016 18:28:22 GMT -5
Really great looking winch PJ!  |
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Post by legend on Apr 24, 2016 1:15:53 GMT -5
A privilege to watch this build!!!!!
Bill
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Post by vlpbruce on Apr 24, 2016 12:20:09 GMT -5
This is way cool.
Great work my friend. As others say, this is a real pleasure to watch.
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Post by martslay on Apr 24, 2016 13:07:53 GMT -5
AWESOME!!!
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