Queen Boudicca of the Iceni

[Paul P]

Hi all I will shortly be starting a scratch build of something that I have been working on for several months. Im going to make Boudicca in her chariot, which will include a 2 horse team and a driver. I have received a very detailed plan of an iron age chariot from the British museum together with a ton of information and pictures, in fact they supplied much more detail than I had actually asked for, so a big thankyou to Dr Jody Joy for her in depth knowledge and enthusiasm on the subject. I have also asked for some scratching help from our very own Dicky, as looking at the plans there seem to be a few complicated parts especially around the wheels and axles. My next thought now is to build the chariot from balsa or plastic .
Hopefully this will start after ive finished the Coldstream guardsman which should be done shortly. Ill post a few pics of the plans and what the finished kit should, hopefully, look like.

Thanks for looking

Paul

[Deleted]

Hey Paul,I'll watch this from the front and centre,if ya don't mind?....I do have a question tho,whatever happened to 'The Joust'?

[Paul P]

May 22, 2013 16:37:44 GMT -5 @chrisb said:

Hey Paul,I'll watch this from the front and centre,if ya don't mind?....I do have a question tho,whatever happened to 'The Joust'?

And a good question it is, ive put it on the back burner for now for a couple of reasons, firstly i wasnt happy with my painting on the caparison of the horse, and secondly i had a go at trying to make the shattered lance with very limited succes, so until i get those sorted it will just sit on my desk. It will be finished at some point but not just yet

Paul

[Deleted]

No sweat,mate....I wus only askin'!

[Leon]

Paul, this sounds great count me in.I saw a documentary on Queen Boudicca and really liked it.

[wbill76]

Sounds like a great collaborative effort, will look forward to seeing the Queen come to life!

[TRM]

Sounds like another great project Paul! Really looking forward to seeing what you come up with!!

[bigjohn]

Glad i'm not to late for the party. looking forward to this big time!!!!!

[tigrazor]

Phew... almost too late. Wheres the popcorn and the Minibar?

XD

[Paul P]

Thankyou all for your interest, just got to hope i can pull it off now heres a few pics of the chariot, this one was made from the same plans that i have, only this is full size and was used in the series about Boudicca with Alex Kingston in. in essence it had a kind of suspension as there was a floating floor that was strapped to the hoops fixed to the chassis, which appears to be a bit more advanced than the Roman invaders.







I am also trying to decide whether to make it an action scene, i.e. horses galloping, cloaks flapping etc etc, or a standing scene, with nothing flapping,

Paul

[Deleted]

I reckon you've got enough stuff 'Flapping',with 'The Joust mate'!! Why not just have her and her driver stood there on the cheroot!!?

[Leon]

Either way you go Paul,i'm sure it will look fantastic.

[Paul P]

Chris yer probably right a bit less flapping with this one

paul

[Paul P]

Hi all
OK just got this one started, about time i hear you say, sorry about the delay but for the first time ive got 3 things on the bench at once .
Im afraid i cant show you some pics of the plans as they are on a PDF, so as per the plans ive started with the axle and the yoke pole






The yoke pole will be pinned into the axle and then the frame will sit on top of it

all for now

Paul

[Deleted]

Darnit!!! And there wus me thinkin you were going to do this 'Chariot'!!!!!!

[Paul P]

Chris can you not tell its the same thing , i might do a couple of axles and add tracks bet the icini never thought of that

jackwagon,away we go , dont go making me think i know what im doing yet still loads to go

Paul

[wbill76]

Nice to see this one 'rolling' again Paul, have to start somewhere with it eh?

[Leon]

Paul,i was hoping you would get back to this .This a very interesting project.

[Paul P]

Thanks for looking in guys

Well had a total night of insomnia last night but looking on the bright side had plenty of bench time. I just want to point out that when Dicky blogs his scratching and makes it look easy................IT ISNT !!! i spent 5 hours last night trying to make the yoke and after the second attempt finally did it








This is the part thats fitted onto the end of the yoke pole and the horses fit under the end curves........hopefully. i have a 120mm horse made up and i keep trying it next to the parts to see how it goes, at the moment im a bit worried that the yoke pole isnt long enough, but at least if i have to make another one then thats a fairly easy bit to re do


all for now

Paul

[vlpbruce]

Looking good so far Paul. Scratchbuilding isn't as difficult as sculpting is. :-)

[Tobi]

Now this project sounds like some very serious modelling.

I'll be on the watch! I for my share always fancied ancient Egypt.

Cheers,
Tobi

[Paul P]

Bruce cheers mate, I think the juries out on the difficulty ratio, ill let you know when its finished


Glad you are joining us Advin, there is a model of an Egyptian chariot already I think pegasso do it

Cheers jackwagon hopefully this will be the only curvy thing.................apart from the wheels.........and them suspension hoopy things


Paul

[vlpbruce]

Fair enough Paul. I'm thinking about trying to sculpt a figure fir my Katyusha (We'll see).

[Leon]

Nice scratch work on the yoke Paul.

[Paul P]

Bruce great stuff dont forget to blog it

Leon much obliged mate

I changed the yoke a bit. on the original the end curved bits are made up of one complete piece including the flat piece underneath, so i thinned out the top part of the curve and then rebated the bottom part for the flat piece to sit in and then put it back together again. Ive glued the whole assembly together, the original would have been pinned and then lashed together, so ill do the lashing when i find some suitable cord











on to the bit ive been dreading now, the wheels


Paul

[wbill76]

Looking good Paul! Don't fear the wheels, if you can do a dragon you can do a pair of wheels no problem!

[vlpbruce]

Looks good to me Paul. Don't worry about the wheels, you will manage. I have never done any of these, so I can't offer you any advice (sorry). Keep up the good work.

[Leon]

Looking very good Paul.You will do fine on the wheels mate.

[Paul P]

Many thanks for the comments and encouragement guys its really appreciated

Just added a bit more to the yoke, ive done the lashings around the end of the yoke and the spa and also added the tracer eyes on the top of the yoke. The eyes are there for 2 reasons, they allow the strapping to go through where the yoke is secured onto the horse and also for the reins to pass through









Ive also started on the first wheel. A few problems i can forsee, first how to make something perfectly round, second once ive made the outside rim ive have to work out the size of the spokes to make the hub sit central. So with this in mind i made a template, the wheel has to be 56mm in dia with a central hub of 14mm leaving the spokes to be about 18mm long, the wheel itself will be 3mm wide and the spokes 2mm in dia.





so heres the template, marked out for the spokes at 30 degree angles. Another thing that i found interesting about the wheels is that the outside rim was made of one piece of timber, steamed around a former so it only had one joint. A much better system than the usual segmented wheels with joints on each segment

more to follow

Paul

[deafpanzer]

Looking great... you have my attention now! I won't worry too much about the wheels... I don't think wheels from that era were that perfect.