Trumpeter 1/350 HMS Dreadnought 1907

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Certainly enjoyed this voyage Bill ! The a.m. wood deck looks superb . All the rest of the added details along with your painting and weathering technique made her a proud looking ship model .
sweet looking build Bill .

[wbill76]

Thanks Boyd and Carl! Glad you like how the proud old lady turned out!

[bullardino]

Fantastic result, Bill

[Gordon Ferguson]

Superb, just love the finish very subtle but enough weathering just to emphasise the fine moulding, your refinements have moved this up to museum quality

[406 Silverado]

Well Bill, you seemed to have built another masterpiece and showed that it is some times good to get out of ones comfort zone. Hats off to you brother.

[wbill76]

Thanks Lui!

Gordon, high praise indeed, thank you kindly sir! This one is going to 'live' with a very good friend of mine who is a retired history teacher. He had a chance to see it in person last night and was afraid to even breathe on it...now the challenge is to find a good display case for it so he can rest easy with it!

Rob, it's all your fault...you're the one who got me started in ship building with the Z38! Between you and Todd, it's an evil scheme I tell you. You're right about doing something different every now and then, this one had some 'firsts' for me that stretched the envelope a bit and upped the enjoyment factor too, always a great combo. Glad you like how it all turned out!

[Foenetik]

amazing job!

[deafpanzer]

BRILLIANT! BEAUTIFUL! STUNNING! One of my favorites coming out of El Paso man cave for sure... catching up here. Hell I hope mine comes as half good as yours!!!

[wbill76]

Thanks Tony!

Andy, I don't think you've got anything to worry about with the Indy other than how long it will take for you to finish it! I estimate that the Dreadnought took about 150 man-hours to complete from start to finish so that should give you a good idea of what you're in for with your floaty!

[Tojo72]

Great finish, inspiring as I have not tried a ship in awhile.

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[afvfan]

Nice finish, Bill! She looks great. (insert 2 thumbs up here)

On a sidenote, I have to wonder what the designers were thinking with the lifeboat placement. One good hit to the central area of the superstructure and everybody's swimming from the sharks!

[wbill76]

Thanks Anthony! You should give one a whirl every now and then, definitely is a nice change of pace.

Bob, it's interesting that you mention that. I'm currently reading 'Steel Castles' about the naval war in WWI and one of the things they mentioned as a wartime expedient was the removal and stowage ashore of all of the steam pinnaces, leaving only the minimum number of boats in place due to fire concerns. Since the zone of operation for these ships was primarily the North Sea, sharks weren't so big an issue...but freezing in the water sure would be!

[Gordon Ferguson]

Re lifeboats stowage, it's worth trying to place this in a historical context. At the time these dreadnoughts a were designed and built the RN was the most powerful and successful navy the world had ever seen ......... You did not fire on a RN ship , never mind sink it ! So survival of the crew after a sinking was never really considered. To a great extent this also reflected thinking within the Merchant fleet , just think of the Titanic disaster a few years later.

I cannot think of a RN ship sunk through enemy action from about 1870 thro to 1914 , plenty were sunk through incompetence , storms ,etc and this was at time when usually somewhere in the globe the RN was in action most of the time.

These things outgunned and were faster and more heavily armoured than just about everything else, the Germans were supposed to be building comparable ships hence the arms race at that time ........ This proved to be a true but only to avery limited extent. The Japanese had ships close to these as proved in the Russian Sino fleet actions in 1905, but as we built most of there ships there were not quite at the same level. The only real threat to them were the small torpedo boats , air power had still not arrived yet, but dreadnoughts were not used in isolation and were only deployed with significant numbers of destroyers , cruisers, etc who acted as a screen and longe range protection for the capital ships ........ Exactly the same as the U.S. navy uses missile destroyers, etc as a screen for the aircraft carriers.

The dreadnoughts were far from perfect, Armour plating was definitley too thin in places and that's ignoring the manufacturing process where the Germans, specifically Krupps were far superior .... But this always happens in warship design where you are balancing wieght against speed , consider the unarmed decks of WW11 American aircraft carriers with the catastrophic results of kamikaze raids

[deafpanzer]

Sept 21, 2014 10:02:55 GMT -5 wbill76 said:

Andy, I don't think you've got anything to worry about with the Indy other than how long it will take for you to finish it! I estimate that the Dreadnought took about 150 man-hours to complete from start to finish so that should give you a good idea of what you're in for with your floaty!

150+ hours?!?!!? I am D-O-O-M-E-D then!

[wbill76]

Sept 24, 2014 19:55:07 GMT -5 deafpanzer said:

Sept 21, 2014 10:02:55 GMT -5 wbill76 said:

Andy, I don't think you've got anything to worry about with the Indy other than how long it will take for you to finish it! I estimate that the Dreadnought took about 150 man-hours to complete from start to finish so that should give you a good idea of what you're in for with your floaty!

150+ hours?!?!!? I am D-O-O-M-E-D then!

Just pace yourself Andy and you'll do fine!

[moramarth]

Armour plating was definitley too thin in places and that's ignoring the manufacturing process where the Germans, specifically Krupps were far superior ....

Not too sure about this bit - everyone used the same processes but with a slight variation in quality.  "KC" referred to a type of armour ("Krupp Cemented") rather than the actual manufacturer.  IIRC, post WW2 tests suggested British and German armour was, weight-for-weight,  pretty much on par with each other, US armour being slightly inferior and Japanese markedly so.  However, this latter view may be influenced by a single test item (a turret face plate left over when "Shinano" was built as an aircraft carrier rather than a battleship) which may have been defective.

Regards,

M

[bbd468]

Bravo Bill, a stunning piece of work right there! 10/10

[wbill76]

Oct 1, 2014 11:58:14 GMT -5 bbd468 said:

Bravo Bill, a stunning piece of work right there! 10/10

Thanks Brother Gary! Glad you like how she turned out.

[Rick]

Everything they said Bill. Wow! I'll bet the original never looked this good!

Rick

[wbill76]

Thanks Rick! It was probably the most enjoyable (and different!) build I've done in a while.

[DeafStuG]

Beautiful build.

[wbill76]

Thanks Jeremy! It was a fun build that I enjoyed and worked out perfectly with the break I had available time-wise. Glad you like how she turned out.

[`Boots`]

WOW......that is one dam fine ship ya gawn and done there Bill, super detail and finish.

[wbill76]

Thanks Boots! I had a lot of fun building it!

[mrversatile]

Sorry Bill, I am new to the forum so I am catching up on some of these builds, and I am glad I found this one. Very nicely done. A clean build you should be proud of.

[wbill76]

Feb 5, 2015 20:44:39 GMT -5 mrversatile said:

Sorry Bill, I am new to the forum so I am catching up on some of these builds, and I am glad I found this one. Very nicely done. A clean build you should be proud of.

Thanks Gil! Had a lot of fun with it and learned some things along the way as well.

[armorguy]

This build is ridiculously impressive. Tons of fine detail, you gotta LOVE this big girl !!!

[wbill76]

Feb 6, 2015 18:47:36 GMT -5 armorguy said:

This build is ridiculously impressive. Tons of fine detail, you gotta LOVE this big girl !!!

Thanks Guy! Had a blast working with it in all the different areas. Since she was the first of her kind, figured I might as well do her proud!

[armorguy]

You sure did my friend !